I say Fire Kubiak, promote Wade Phillips to HC for this year (Hire a new OC) with balls and go from there.. .Ravens hire an new OC- mid season last year and they made the Super Bowl.. I relaly think Matt can get out of this, but not with Kubiak as his coach..
Gary can "promise you" there is accountability :grin: Spoiler <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: I'm in an evaluation stage this week. Every player is in that stage right now. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a>.</p>— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepSlant/statuses/387313984266702848">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: When you call a play and it doesn't work, as a coach, you always blame yourself. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepSlant/statuses/387314269764587520">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak says he is evaluating what works best for the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a>, that includes every position including quarterback. Reiterates 8 is starter.</p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/387314015271403520">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak when asked if Schaub is starter but left the door open: "He is, but I'm evaluating everything 2 c what gives us best chance 2 win."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387314411322363904">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: "I'm disappointed. When you're calling the plays or you're an offensive coach, you look at yourself when something goes wrong."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387314639689613313">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: "I'm trying to help him (Schaub) push him through it so our team can push through it."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387314823131717632">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: "We're all disappointed because we're having to overcome too much."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387314903901405185">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Second Monday in a row Kubiak talks about being there for his quarterback and helping him through a rough patch. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/387314699945410560">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak says he doesn't worry about losing the locker room if he doesn't make a change at QB. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/387314797597192192">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"You watch the struggle and you just want to be a part of the solution." Kubiak on helping Schaub through "rough period." <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/statuses/387314965096321024">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: I believe we can get fixed and get headed in the right direction. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Drew Dougherty (@DoughertyDrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/DoughertyDrew/statuses/387314933399949314">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak on worrying about Schaub's confidence: "That's only natural, but he's tough mentally and physically. He has 2 work through this."</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387315056314028033">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"The reason he's played a long time is he's very tough mentally, physically," Kubiak says on Schaub. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/387315047615459328">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak (on accountability): If I think something needs to be done on our football team, I'll do it. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepSlant/statuses/387315577317888002">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>"I can promise you there's accountability. If I think on our football team something needs to be done, then I'll do it" Kubiak says. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/statuses/387315558561382400">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Players that have been doing this for a long time, they need responisiblity. That's what makes them tick. They need to play thru it. -Kubiak</p>— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/statuses/387316160607182848">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>TE Owen Daniels has a fibula that is being evaluated this afternoon.</p>— Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/statuses/387316488262000640">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak said Vernon Davis' 64-yard coverage was a "bust inside" meaning it wasn't the fault of Ed Reed, who chased after Davis.</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387316798070071296">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak: Owen Daniels getting an MRI on fibula today. Keshawn Martin has knee sprain. Ben Tate has elbow contusion but ok. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Deepi Sidhu (@DeepSlant) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeepSlant/statuses/387316808794914816">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak said Schaub is the starter "but I'm in the evaluation stage." He didn't come out and say Schaub would start against the Rams.</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387317219626983424">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Until Kubiak says Schaub will start against the Rams, the door is open for a possible change with TJ Yates.</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387317317094240256">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kubiak said when evaluating the QB he never gives a thought to the possible reaction of fans at home if he throws another INT.</p>— John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/statuses/387317430998949888">October 7, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
The change should be made now, but my fear is that it'll take until the Indy game after losing to KC in a couple of weeks. That KC defense is forcing turnovers like crazy and will feast on a shell shocked QB. Assuming we can take care of the Rams, which is far from given, that would put us at 3-4 going into the Indy game. That game would basically be our season on the line IMO.
I agree 100%. But my fear is that it'll take until this season is over until any changes will be made. What ticks me off even more is that TJ isn't as versatile as Case, and I'm ticked that if any changes will happen at the QB pos, TJ yates will take over. I really wish Case was the back up in this situation versus TJ. If I had the authority I would bench Schaub right now, and let Yates and Case fiddle around and win games for experience. Our building block for the future starts now. NOT next season. Any true long time Houstonian will agree. Let Yates play a half and Case the other, OR alternate full games with both of them. one with Yates, the other with Case until the season is over to see who has the potential to succeed with our team from next season. I really believe Case will win that battle. I honestly hate Kubiak and his defending of Schaub. I want a true leader of a coach who doesn't take any BS. I hate how Kubiak rides Schaubs tail. It's getting to the point now where it's just inhumane.
Some stuff from their radio segments: Kubiak: (Hopkins) He has to do a better job out there too. He has to get open and do his job. (Yates) Didn't get a chance to do much. Wasn't a lot there. I wasn't going to throw every down. Then we end up fumbling the ball too. (Foster & Tate both in the backfield at the same time) Spent the whole week without a fullback. Greg missed the entire week. Ben came in and did a good job. (Injuries) Martin is doing okay. Owen is in a 2nd MRI(lower leg). Reed is fine. (Penalties) We're at the top of the league of having too many. Those things get you beat. (Duane) He's doing okay. (OD if he can't go) We do so much with those guys(the TEs). We'll keep our fingers crossed and hope for the best. (Defense) They've been consistent. Got put in tough situations last night and kept battling. I'm proud of their effort. They played hard. Hopefully we can help them out a bit. (Takeaways) Stage hasn't been set for us to get them. (Harris pushing Newton and Ben Jones) Ben was consistent. He held his own. Ryan continues to push for play time. (How do you rebuild confidence?) The team takes care of that. Important we find a win, our third win. You play well as a team, a lot of players regain confidence. You have to be mentally tough. That's why (Schaub's) played a long time and has been successful. (Anybody else Matt is talking to for advice or a helping hand?) All guys are different. Matt is married and has a family. His wife is a big support as is his dad. Everyone has a support system. I want to be that for him and help him work through it. All players are different from that standpoint. (Pass protection) It could help us. We played a darn good group. We threw the ball way too much. We can be firmer but other times we're doing an excellent job. It all goes hand in hand. You don't want to come out throwing 40 times. That's not what we do(/want to do). (Cushing) He was fine. Went as smooth as you could through it(concussion protocol). We expected him to respond and he did. (Mercilus) Playing really good. Brooks is the one on top of his game. Very excited about his progress. (Andrew Luck/Colts) He's something else. They lost a great one and got right back to work with this one. (Big picture, sitting at 2-3) I knew we were facing an early difficult schedule. We understood we would go through a tough stretch but never thought we'd be helping teams. We'll win our games if we play solid football. -Special Teams can help jump start us too. -Randy needs to get that done. He's no different. He has a job to do. (Rams) They're a good football team. Very much a pressure football team. Fine young QB. Good football team, we'll take our best. (Keenum) He's doing really good. Runs scout team. I got a lot of confidence in him. T.J. gets more work because he's our two but Case is becoming a much better pro and working towards his opportunity. (Locker room mood) As coaches, everyone has a heart beat of their room/position groups. Locker room, we're very disappointed. Plane ride was tough. (What goes into evaluating everybody) You spend most of Monday grading film. I sit down with coaches and go through each player. We're keeping files on all of that. (How much is Case pushing T.J.?) He's pushing every day and pushing hard. I thought T.J. answered the bell during training camp. All I can tell you is I got confidence in both of them and they're doing their job. Schaub: Physically feel good. Emotionally, it was a tough one against a good football team. A lot of things we need to correct as a team and can improve upon and have to improve upon moving forward. Reaction after the first interception? We had a good look. Corner jumped it, made a good play. After that, you keep firing and slinging it. We dug ourselves a hole and couldn't get out of it. We have to be better from the start and play 4 consistent quarters of football. For us to be the type of team we know we can be, we have to put points on the board and we'll do that. (Are you forcing things or running the offense the way it's supposed to be run?) We need to find points and get points and generate drives. Playmakers need to step up, across the board at every position. I wouldn't say we're forcing things. When you get down, you have to make plays and get the ball in places you otherwise might not. 2nd pick? He did jump the route but had a play with Dre that we run a lot. Guy made a break on the ball. 3rd pick? We caught a blitz look trying to get it to Garrett underneath. DT popped out, I didn't see him coming. (Conversation with you and Gary when T.J. warmed up?) That's something between me and coach. We'll rally around each other and move forward. A lot of football left to be played. Conversations are private between myself and the coach. We're a united team. Everyone has each others back. We know how everyone works and how hard they work. Everyone has each others back no matter what. This week is no different. (Why Tate and Foster at the same time?) Trying to get playmakers on the field. It gives us an additional look. (How much input do you have to say "I gotta have these things to go right for me to do my job"?) Throughout the week, I do have influence. I have a grouping of plays I like against certain teams and defenses. The coaches listen. (What can you tell us about your emotions in being removed from a game? Threat moving forward?) As a competitor, you want to be out there every snap. I expressed that to him. He wouldn't want me to be any other way. Going forward, I'm the QB of this team. (Doing anything else/talking to anyone else outside the building?) It's nose to the grindstone. Tons of people have tried to reach out. HS coaches, family, people reach out. It's awesome to see the support and people be there for you who have always been there. It's nice to have that support but we have to keep working and keep fighting.
I hate how Schaub acts like such a tough guy in these interviews, after performing like crap for a month now...not that I'd expect anything different, but it would make me feel much better if he just admits to playing like ****. Instead, it's "everyone needs to play better". **** you.
He's a pretty crappy leader when he doesnt place the majority of the blame on himself. He is clearly the biggest reason we are sucking right now, but he disperses that blame amongst everyone. He's ****ing clueless.
He said nothing wrong there. He's not playing well and he knows it. He's never an "I" player when things have gone well, so it shouldn't surprise you that he's not going to crucify himself on a radio interview.
"Kubiak: (Hopkins) He has to do a better job out there too. He has to get open and do his job." Seriously? This pissed me off. Hopkins is playing great.
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You must not have heard players like Manning, Rodgers, or Brady...they are all about "I" when things are going horribly...and about "we" when things are going great. It's being a leader...that's what QBs are supposed to do. Nobody on the team is playing nearly as poorly as Schaub...he is literally tossing the win to the other team...it would be nice to take a little bit more accountability, because we've been hearing the same BS from him for 3 weeks now, yet not only are things not getting better, they are getting worse.
^**** Schaub. You are absolutely right. I always hear Peyton saying stuff like "I have to play better."
