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  1. DieHard Rocket

    DieHard Rocket Contributing Member

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    Guessing he passed Chester Pitts?
     
  2. No Worries

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    Hunt makes me nervous. They did give him a shot at kickoff return a couple games ago and he muffed the kickoff. He was able to recover it but it's not often you see guys drop kickoffs. Could be just an anomaly but if his hands are that bad I don't want him. We've already seen J.J. Moses.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The difference between Hoyer and Yates is pretty simple.
    Throws 9 yards or less
    Hoyer vs. NO 18/20 138 2 TDs
    Yates vs. Jets 10/20 97 yards</p>&mdash; PDS (@PatDStat) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/671355690091347968">November 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hoyer vs. Yates on 20+ throws

    Hoyer vs. N.O 2-3 35 yards.
    Yates vs. Jets 2-4 82 yards 2 TDs</p>&mdash; PDS (@PatDStat) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatDStat/status/671356312312143872">November 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  5. rezdawg

    rezdawg Contributing Member

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    How do you complete 2 passes of 20+ yards, but only get 35 yards out of it?
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    Good question
     
  7. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the current AFC playoff picture. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash">#NFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> 1-2 vs those 5 teams w/ games remaining vs Pats, at Colts. <a href="https://t.co/5Yukl5SQQq">pic.twitter.com/5Yukl5SQQq</a></p>&mdash; Adam Wexler (@awexler) <a href="https://twitter.com/awexler/status/671220775311900673">November 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  8. DieHard Rocket

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    Guessing that is a typo, was it the long Washington catch and run and the similar Griffin catch and run? If so those were at least 30-35 yds each.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    I assume that passes of 20+ yards indicates passes that traveled that distance i the air. At least, when analyzing QB passes for short, intermediate, and deep passes, that's how you assess it.
     
  10. Nimo

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    I think the Yates and Hoyer comparison is spot-on. Hoyer looked really good with the short passing game. Yates looked good with the long game. But can we really compare the Jets defense and the Saints defense?
     
  11. rezdawg

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    What I noticed with Hoyer yesterday is that he doesnt take shots downfield...he's more conservative in is approach, which could be good or bad. There were a few plays where he had time in the pocket and it looked like he was going to launch it, but then he'd pull back and check down. Sometimes, you just have to let if fly, specially when you have Hopkins going deep. Unless you throw it horribly, it's most likely ending in a Hopkins catch or an incomplete pass. Even if it gets picked off, that'll essentially be a 45 yard punt, which isnt the worst thing.
     
  12. DonkeyMagic

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    Time and place. I don't think Hoyer was keen on letting it fly with a lead, especially after his interception that really could have been critical if the defense hadn't stopped them. But overall, I don't think he throws a great deep ball.
     
  13. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    Let's consider situation as well. From the get go, the Texans were in control yesterday and up 2 scores for the vast majority of the game. Against Cincy, it was a tight game against a team that is known to be much better. That is to say, Hoyer had very little to launch it / take risks given the scenario yesterday, so I don't think we can pull conclusions based on 2 very different scenarios
     
  14. Nimo

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    The short game was very evident in the first two drives. I even posted on here right after the first touchdown that this was the short passing game like the Patriots that we expected out of a Bill O'Brien offense. The Texans were not playing from behind in the Jets game with Yates and were still going deep.
     
  15. Cannonball

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    Yeah, it was Pitts. He played 114 games for us. Chris Meyers is at 112. Andre had 169. Duane currently at 115, needs 3+ more seasons to get there.
     
  16. rocketpower2

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    This season has taught me that O'Brien can create and scheme guys open within the offense. And that is a huge positive going forward.
     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Hoping the Rockets find there defensive rejuvenation aka Texans
     
  18. Nimo

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    https://www.profootballfocus.com/bl...des-texans-stymie-saints-continue-win-streak/

    New Orleans Saints
    – Little went right for the Saints on Sunday, particularly on offense where New Orleans mustered just a pair of field goals on the day. They largely abandoned the run, with just five rush attempts in each half. HB Mark Ingram (-0.5) was able to rip off a 29-yard run in the second quarter, but the other nine Saints runs went for just 23 yards, including four for losses.

    – QB Drew Brees (-3.6) had just one turnover, but it was actually one of his worst outings of the season. He completed just four of 13 passes targeted 10-plus yards downfield. The Texans blitzed just eight times and didn’t get a sack on those plays, but Brees was able to complete only one pass and had a -3.3 pass grade on those eight dropbacks.

    – S Kenny Vaccaro was really the lone bright spot for New Orleans. His +3.1 overall grade just edged out a couple other performances as the highest graded game of his career, though it came entirely in run defense. He tallied a career-high six defensive stops, five of which came against the run.
    Top performers:

    SS Kenny Vaccaro (+3.1)
    K Kai Forbath (+1.8)
    DE Cameron Jordan (+1.6)
    P Thomas Morstead (+1.4)
    WR Willie Snead (+0.8)

    Houston Texans
    – Just another day at the office for J.J. Watt. Despite the Saints doing a decent job using double teams and tight ends to chip Watt when lined up on the edge, Watt still earned his second-highest pass rush grade of the season. He finished the day with 11 total pressures (two sacks, six hits and three hurries) for a +7.0 pass rush grade. Houston also moved Watt around a bit more, particularly to get him matched up with rookie Andrus Peat (-5.9), who played at guard for the first time this year.

    – The Saints did do a good job of slowing down WR DeAndre Hopkins as they held him to a season-low 36 receiving yards and his second-lowest graded game at -0.4. Hopkins also dropped his first pass since Week 4, and just his fifth total drop this season. He is still in the top ten in drop rate among wide receivers with at least 50 catchable targets, and ranks 13th in yards per route run with 2.22.

    – TE Ryan Griffin returned from the injured reserve list a couple weeks ago and his presence was certainly a positive one on Sunday. He caught his first touchdown pass since Week 13 of last year and had a career-high 72 receiving yards. He also threw in a couple good run blocks on the edge to earn the second-highest graded game of his career at +2.3 overall.
    Top performers:

    DE J.J. Watt (+7.5)
    C Ben Jones (+3.4)
    CB Jonathan Joseph (+3.2)
    CB Kevin Johnson (+2.3)
    TE Ryan Griffin (+2.3)
     
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    I thought it seemed like Kevin Johnson had a good game but it isn't always easy to tell with DBs. Glad to see the PFF grade bore that out as well.
     
  20. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quintin Demps on turnaround of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> defense: "We got humbled the first half of the season. Right now we're just playing hungry."</p>— Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/671098104054173696">November 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Cushing: 'We just kind of came together and decided, enough is enough. Losing was embarrassing and something we wanted no part of.'</p>— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/671089918551175168">November 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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