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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

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    When Palmer's been healthy, they've had a very good offense and have been a much better team (15-7 with; 6-5 without). Arians is 30-14 the past three seasons as a head coach with two different teams (and a lot of different QBs). Yes, he inherited Andrew Luck and then a good defense in Arizona (which got better under his watch, btw; remember: Arians hired Todd Bowles). But he's quickly asserted himself as a legitimate good NFL head coach.
     
  2. Nick

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    Didn't Pagano hire Arians?

    You can't argue for/against both sides using the same reasoning for each.

    We also know how hard it is for a team to just take on a "new" identity mid-way through the season... yes, Arians did a phenomenal job keeping the team together, but he was still coaching a team that had Pagano's stamp all over it, from personnel decisions to coaching staff hires to the implementation of schedules/regimens/playbooks that had already had Pagano's approval prior to him having to take a leave of absence.

    Now, if you want to talk about truly "overrated", you can look at guys like Jason Garrett... who get mediocre results until the coaching staff is overhauled by coordinators who do the majority of the heavy lifting/game-planning.
     
  3. 713

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    Any word on Hundley's visit today?
     
  4. Ziggy

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    Yep, still underwhelming.
     
  5. Hey Now!

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    Yes; and then Arians promptly coached 12 games without Pagano, who was being treated for cancer. Are you suggesting there's a similar correlation with Arians and Bowles?...

    I honestly don't know what you're even arguing anymore... Chuck Pagano is NOT 33-15 as a head coach. He is 24-12. Whatever the degree, Bruce Arians HAD an impact and its disingenuous to tell the Chuck Pagano story without at least mentioning, oh, btw, nine of the wins everyone keeps crediting to Pagano? Yeah, he was actually getting excruciatingly painful treatment and wasn't impacting the team on a day-to-day, game-to-game basis.

    If you disagree with that.... have at it. I really have zero interest in breaking it down - or discussing it - any further.
     
  6. Nick

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    I'd just concede that Arians was still coaching Pagano's team that was given right back to him when he returned (without any change in result after Arians left)... and in the end, you've been breaking down the semantics of a coach that still has at about a .667 winning percentage regardless of which record you look at.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    Caroline Wozniacki @CarolineWozniacki
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    ****.....jj gettin b****ess preg
     
  8. zeeshan2

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Kubiak brings Broncos to Houston in week 2:<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> preseason sked: Wk 1 SF; Wk 2 Denver; Wk 3 Sun. Aug. 30 at New Orleans, Wk 4 at Dallas</p>&mdash; Adam Wexler (@awexler) <a href="https://twitter.com/awexler/status/586259203662225408">April 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a> announce they've re-signed OL Cody White. White tore Achilles at first training camp practice last season, spent year on IR.</p>&mdash; Adam Wexler (@awexler) <a href="https://twitter.com/awexler/status/586265997130215424">April 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  10. Nimo

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    RotoWorld has Rick Smith at No.13 on their Best GMs of 2015 list; he was No.16 last year

    13. Rick Smith, Texans
    Last Year’s Ranking: 16

    Despite being arguably the most-important figure in Texans history, Rick Smith was one bad year away from being fired last offseason. He didn’t have a bad one. Instead, he hired the game’s best new coach in Bill O’Brien, and locked up its best defender in J.J. Watt. Like any man who has been on the job for nine years, Smith has had plenty of misses. Even last year’s "can’t miss" No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney could prove to be one of them. But Smith’s finds have ushered in the first competitive era of Texans football, and produced two division titles in the past four years. If not for a pick sixin’ Matt Schaub — who despite his disastrous 2013 is one of Smith’s crowning achievements — 2013 would not have been the 2-14 disaster it turned out to be. Maybe Smith is just south of great. Either way, he’s damn good.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/53473/57/nfls-best-gms-2015
     
  12. the shark

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    Whoever wrote this for rotoworld needs to lay off the crack pipe.
     
  13. Sanity2disChaos

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    Yeah , I could smell it.
     
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    I think that's actually a very fair assessment of Rick Smith.
     
  16. Airdough

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    JJs and Caroline's kids grew up fast.
     
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    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-lineman-plans-to-put-j-j-watt-to-the-ground/


     
  18. tmacfor35

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    Reminds me of Dmo's comments on Dwight when he first came into the league.
     
  20. MadMax

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    It's just nice to have a player on your roster that is universally considered the very best at his position....so much so, that it becomes the expressed aspiration of his competitors to merely beat him on a play.
     

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