Stop freaking lying. Cloth masks are not perfect protection, look it up on the CDC website. A p100 mask is perfection protection. Second, Fauci clearly asked people not to wear masks because of the lack of ppe for health care professionals. None of your Trumpanzee nutballs are refusing to wear masks because of mixed messaging. That is complete BS. They're refusing to wear masks because they're ignorant, conspiracy theory loving fools who think they have a Constitutional right not to wear masks. Just stop already. It's embarrassing. Such a waste of time.
too long to quote in full but related to the Fauci mask quotes from February: https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/masks-biggest-factor-in-us-coronavirus-debacle excerpts: While the temptation in all things is to blame Trump’s poor leadership, the quip about masks being “politically correct” linked above is from May 26–a month after DeWine’s order. No, sadly, it was our experts who failed us. In interviews, elected leaders, health specialists and mask advocates say it did not have to be that way — and very nearly wasn’t. The country hit a tipping point on widespread mask use only this month, with a majority of states and the nation’s largest retailers all mandating them. But the science has long been pointing toward the efficacy of masks — even if the guidance from health authorities wasn’t. In February — as the virus silently spread in communities from coast to coast — both the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended against face coverings for healthy members of the general public. They urged that masks be preserved for front-line health-care workers, especially amid global shortages of personal protective equipment. It was a line repeated by top officials in the Trump administration. CDC Director Robert Redfield was asked in February whether healthy people should wear masks. His answer to Congress was unambiguous: “No.” Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease expert, repeatedly told Americans “there is no reason” for anyone in the United States to wear a mask. U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams tweeted on Feb. 29: “Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!” That was simply outrageous. It was untrue. They had to know it was untrue when they said it. My understanding has always been that they were responding to a panic buying of N95 and other medical personal protective equipment and trying to ensure that first responders and health professionals were able to get them. But, if that was the concern, they could have just urged people to wear cloth masks and save the specialized ones for those who really need them. Still, there was more to it. The health officials had made their recommendations based on the flawed assumption that the bulk of transmission was taking place from people with obvious signs of illness. The thinking was that if people with fevers, coughs and other symptoms were to isolate, case counts would remain under control. But it wasn’t long before CDC contact tracers began to find evidence of “silent” spreaders. One report in late March, from a skilled nursing facility in the Seattle area, found 13 asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic patients among 23 residents who tested positive. Many experts backed the anti-mask guidance, arguing they weren’t sure face coverings would make a significant difference. They were worried masks could make people less disciplined about social distancing. I do remember that argument. And, while it seems like this thing has been with us forever, March was still early days. *** Further, while I’ve long presumed Trump’s reluctance is a major contributor to the politicization and hostility behind this issue, the opposite may well be true. Among some of Trump’s most ardent fans, anti-mask insurrections were already brewing. In dark corners of the Internet, mask conspiracy theories took shape. On the steps of state capitol buildings, activists shouted their objections to a masked attack on “liberty.” Some of the president’s advisers, including chief of staff Mark Meadows, expressed repeated skepticism of masks and whether they made a difference, campaign and White House officials said. Trump campaign masks were produced and presented to the president but never sold. Some aides were fearful of selling merchandise he did not wear and appearing to profit off a pandemic, officials said. “The President’s position has been consistent on this,” White House spokeswoman Sarah Matthews said in a statement. “In late March, before there was even a recommended but not required guidance given by the CDC on mask-wearing, he supported facial coverings.” The last is just bizarre gaslighting; Trump has been wildly inconsistent on the issue. But the hostility seems to be visceral and organic, not sparked by his example. *** The WHO and CDC have really failed us. But, still, other countries managed to figure this out well before June 5. U.S. officials have been more forthright in acknowledging their advice has shifted, arguing it was in response to shifting data. “If you acted on the best information you had at the time and then later you get new evidence that points in a different direction, does that mean what you did three months ago was wrong? Well, existentially, yes it was. But it was based on the evidence we had at the time,” Fauci said in an interview Friday. I’m fully sympathetic to the notion that, with a “novel” virus and incomplete information, the experts are going to be wrong with some frequency. All they can do is go with the best evidence they have. Should they have known that wearing a mask was a good idea by the time the virus hit our shores in mid January? Probably. Should they have known better than to send out adamant orders that there was “no reason” to wear a mask by mid February? Absolutely. Yet, even when they finally got around to reversing course on the last day of March, they did so tepidly and poorly. So, yes, what they did three months ago was absolutely wrong. Unforgivably wrong. *** But, again, while I’d like to put it all on Trump, I don’t think the connection to what follows is that strong. Videos began going viral as Americans squared off on what to do about customers in stores who refused to mask up. Social media groups devoted to casting doubt on their efficacy proliferated. Face coverings had become debate points in the U.S. presidential campaign and potent symbols in the culture war. Public health specialists could only shake their heads. The debate radiated through big cities and small ones as the coronavirus began a resurgence in June, with many areas that had dodged the first round of infection getting hammered this time. more at the link
Why are you asking for permission now? It's your go to move when you have no good retort, so go ahead.
Ain't lying at all and you know that there was early confusion about mask wearing. The evidence I have presented confirms it so quit casting false aspersions and man up.
There was early confusion about the mask wearing. Here's the difference that matters to me. Dr. Fauci changes his mind based on new scientific information. Trump changes his mind based on political calculations.
You’re lying and it’s a waste of my time. We all know there are 150,000 dead because of the President’s lies and incompetence. The latest attacks on Fauci are merely politically coordinated attempts to deflect responsibility from where it belongs.
If you gave full attention to Fauci's comments from four months ago, you'd see him add after the "no need to wear masks" bit, "Now, that might change, if you begin to see community spread...." Which, not long after, we did. Big time. Soooooooooooooo...............seems Republicans are cherry-picking in their attempts to pin the blame elsewhere, when it was PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Donald John Trump who did practically nothing until mid-March in regards to the virus. "What have you done?" "The China ban." "But it wasn't a total ban...." "So nasty. You're so nasty." (Several months later.) "Everyone likes Fauci. Nobody likes me. WAAAAAAAAAAAAH! FAUCI THREW OUT THE FIRST PITCH, LOOKED LIKE A CLOWN AND SOLD A GAJILLION COPIES OF A BASEBALL CARD IN THE PROCESS!"
And we all know that you can't handle the truth. For the record, I always wear a mask where necessary. And calling people liars can get you a smack in the mouth. It's easy to say from behind a keyboard.
You do realize you are embarrassing yourself here daily. I mean, knock yourself out, we need the laughs. But just in case you have convinced yourself otherwise... you have taken over the role of village idiot from (oh, I forgot, I put him on ignore months ago).
Don't support Trump. Like I told you once before, I support the truth and facts. So you think calling someone a liar on the net is courageous. Got it. And not threatening violence at all - just a fact if life.
So the point of all was to confirm that opinions changed based on new information and that there were multiple reasons, including to preserve PPE for essential workers, initially.
Oh I'm all insulted yet again. Someone with a different world view thinks I'm an idiot. So much for free speech eh?
"World view"? Is idiocy a world view now? Who would have known? And "free speech"? Who is taking away your free speech? Seems like I am encouraging your free speech...
