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[OFFICIAL] Harden making Hakeem obsolete thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Os Trigonum, Jan 2, 2017.

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Is Harden in the process of making Hakeem obsolete?

  1. As a Harden nuthugger, I say the answer is clearly and obviously yes

    14 vote(s)
    10.3%

  2. As a Harden only fan, I say the answer is probably a qualified possibly yes, maybe

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  3. As a Hakeem nuthugger, I say Harden only fans should be banned

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  4. As a Hakeem only fan, I say there is no such thing as a Hakeem only fan

    12 vote(s)
    8.8%

  5. As a Mike D'Antoni fan, I don't understand the question

    6 vote(s)
    4.4%

  6. As a Patrick Beverley fan, I say you're all wrong

    14 vote(s)
    10.3%

  7. As a DMo only fan, I hear New Orleans is a nice place

    11 vote(s)
    8.1%

  8. As a Daryl Morey fan, I'm waiting for Batman Jones's musical

    15 vote(s)
    11.0%

  9. As a Rockets fan, I say there is no right answer

    46 vote(s)
    33.8%

  10. As an OP fan, even I want OP banned now

    65 vote(s)
    47.8%
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  1. samtaylor

    samtaylor Member

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    Harden is averaging more minutes, points, and assists, is a better FT and 3PT shooter, and has a better eFG% than the so called "Dream". #Hardenfacts #OverratedOlajuwon #OPisontosomething
     
    #121 samtaylor, Mar 21, 2017
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    And more turnovers

    They are about even on efg% but harden is ahead on ts%
     
    #122 Mr. Clutch, Mar 21, 2017
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    Harden has a better PER
     
    #123 samtaylor, Mar 21, 2017
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    Well said. Ditto.
     
    #124 Plowman, Mar 21, 2017
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    To quote Cliff Claven, "what color is the sky in your world"?
     
    #125 the shark, Mar 21, 2017
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    [​IMG]
     
    #126 samtaylor, Mar 21, 2017
  7. No Chance

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    OP NEEDS A DOSE OF TAR AND FEATHERS!
     
    #127 No Chance, Mar 21, 2017
  8. Os Trigonum

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    #samtaylorisagenius #samtaylormynewbestfriend
     
    #128 Os Trigonum, Mar 21, 2017
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  9. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    neither of them averaged a triple double...
     
    #129 Daddy Long Legs, Mar 21, 2017
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    Les needs to build a statue of Russ, the all time greatest human ever. #2rebounds
     
    #130 samtaylor, Mar 21, 2017
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  11. heypartner

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    at more than +4 ppg, Hakeem has the biggest jump in Playoff Scoring (25.90) vs Regular Season scoring (21.77) of any player in history.

    He's 6 all-time in Playoff PPG for retired players. And for the Rockets, he scored 26.6 ppg in the Playoffs.
     
    #131 heypartner, Mar 21, 2017
  12. Wylo

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    93-94 Hakeem (MVP season)

    27.3 PPG
    PER 25.3
    eFG 53.0%
    TS 56.5%
    OWS 6.4
    OBPM 2.2
    ORtg 109

    16-17 Harden

    29.4 PPG
    11.2 APG
    PER 27.9
    eFG 53.1%
    TS 62.0%
    OWS 10.5 (not final)
    OBPM 8.9
    ORtg 118

    seems pretty one sided to me
     
    #132 Wylo, Mar 21, 2017
  13. samtaylor

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    Hardens numbers are better. Don't be mad at me, be mad at math
     
    #133 samtaylor, Mar 21, 2017
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    #134 Os Trigonum, Mar 21, 2017
  15. Wylo

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    It's not disrespecting Hakeem when someone says Harden is better offensive player (at least during the regular season), because Harden is already historically great offensive player in his own right. To average near 30-10 with that kind of efficiency is unheard of.

    Think about it this way : Even the rockets fans will admit that in some sense Kobe was better offensive player than Hakeem. Well, Harden is literally challenging Kobe's best offensive season right now. It's that crazy statistically.
     
    #135 Wylo, Mar 21, 2017
  16. Wylo

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    Kobe's best PER : 28.0
    Harden's PER : 27.9

    Kobe's best eFG% : 50.4
    Harden's eFG% : 53.1

    Kobe's best TS% : 58.0
    Harden's TS% : 62.0

    Kobe's best OWS : 11.6
    Harden's OWS : 10.5 (probably gonna surpass Kobe in the end)

    Kobe's best OBPM : 7.3
    Harden's OBPM : 8.9

    Kobe's best ORtg : 115
    Harden's ORtg : 118
     
    #136 Wylo, Mar 21, 2017
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    Harden is GOAT
     
    #137 hakeem94, Mar 21, 2017
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    Kobe's Best WS : 15.3
    Harden's Best WS: 16.4

    Kobe's Best APG: 6.3
    Harden's Best APG: 11.2

    # Of days It took before Dwight Howard broke Kobe: 0
    # Of days it took before Dwight Howard broke Harden: 730

    # Of 3-1 leads Kobe has blown : 1
    # Of 3-1 deficits Harden has come back from: 1

    Kobe's FG% in the finals: 36% (and this guy is clutch?)
    Harden's FG% in the finals: 37% (universally claimed as a disaster of a series)
     
    #138 Swiss Roll, Mar 21, 2017
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  19. Wylo

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    I mean it's crazy to think that Harden might be better offensive player than Kobe is, but it's debatable at this point.
     
    #139 Wylo, Mar 21, 2017
  20. Swiss Roll

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    If Harden does this for the next 4-5 years (not exactly, but plays the same role), he is up there with LeBron and Magic for greatest all around offensive players of all time.
     
    #140 Swiss Roll, Mar 21, 2017
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