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[OFFICIAL] Elizabeth Warren for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    Still Warren?
     
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    For someone who's supposed to have a very ideology, very similar values, she is not showing any signs of consolidation with Bernie or his supporters.

    I think she was really pissed Bernie didn't fall over and let her quasi call him sexist. She's got some terrible campaign managers.
     
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    She really is her own worst enemy.

    She should have/could have run away with this thing. But even many of the more progressive, liberal, women I know just can't back her... overall unlikeability, smugness, not really knowing what she wanted to do on healthcare, too much attacking others instead of just laying out her plan and why she's better, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
     
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    This.

    Warren was so much better when she had a "plan" for this and that problem. Voters could relate to that. Warren's campaign went down the tubes when she started to personally attack people. Really bad advice from her managers.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    She originally faltered when she released her health care plan and the details just didn't hold up well to scrutiny. And then she adjusted her plan a few times, which probably annoyed people even more. The problem with having a plan for everything is that plans can be dissected.
     
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    I just think she is sick of the bullshit and double standard she faces as a female candidate and as a female in general.

    She can still influence the election results and possibly help direct what some of the issues are.
     
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    That or the more logical possibility, she does believe that Sanders is a sexist to some degree. It makes zero sense for her to believe that Sanders would let her call him a sexist unless she believed him to be one.
     
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    Or what he told her was he is scared the country has too many sexist men to elect a female candidate (his impression from watching Hillary lose), and she thought she'd spin it off in a politically advantageous way with hopes he'd half admit that he mentioned he thinks it would be harder for women to win, then the media would pounce on him and she'd leapfrog him in the race.

    Since we are speculating. The way she had the Convo over a year back but somehow forgot to be offended until right before the pre-Iowa debate, seems like it was calculated.
     
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    Sure she could have calculated the release of the statement in response to Sanders having his operatives campaign against Warren in Iowa.... my point is that it makes no sense for Warren to believe that Sanders would allow her to depict him as sexist if Warren didn’t truly believe it to be true.... I wasn’t offering an opinion about whether Sanders was or wasn’t sexist towards Warren.
     
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    I have zero doubts that Warren thinks Bernie is not an actual sexist. I think she just wanted to score cheap political points.
     
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    Elizabeth Warren emailed campaign workers today to tell them she is assessing the best path forward and thanking them for their hard work thus far.

    There is speculation that she may drop out.
     
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    It has to be a tough pill to swallow for Warren. She could have been running away with this thing. All the stars were aligned until the dreaded yes-or-no question.
     
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    She needs to drop out.
     
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    If she does drop out, it will be interesting to see if she endorses an extreme underdog in Bernie, or just stays out of it at this point.
     
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    If she backs Bernie, it likely guarantees a contested convention. If she stays out of it or somehow backs Biden, this could be all but over.
     
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    she is more of an offensive coordinator than a head coach...
     
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    She would be great in the Dick Cheney role in Joe Biden's White House. God knows he's going to need someone to run the place for him. It will be just like old times: he can do nothing and take all the credit for it.
     

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