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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Stros4me

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    I appreciate the well-thought-out response. I agree with The Beard--I don't see us committing to a 13-man offense throughout the year; especially with a lot of unknown parts on the pitching staff.

    I also don't see us essentially getting rid of both Marisnick and Kemp, AND blocking Tucker, in order to accommodate him on the 25 man roster.

    Marisnick is still our only backup CF (aside from Straw). Marwin can't play CF, so this doesn't fix this issue either if you toss Jake.
     
  2. Mr.Pringles

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    I would most certainly keep Jake.
     
  3. Stros4me

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    If that's the case, then you would have to run with:

    C: Chirinos, Stassi
    IF: Altuve, Gurriel, Bregman, Correa, Marwin, Diaz, White
    OF: Brantley, Springer, Reddick, Marisnick

    Tucker could ONLY come up at this point via an injury replacement.

    IMO, not only would Marwin not get regularly playing time on this roster, he would keep the high ceiling of Tucker from every seeing the light of day.

    And then back to the 12 man likelihood....
     
  4. Redfish81

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    Only way Marwin makes sense is if we trade Kemp and White. Then you rotate the DH with Marwin, Diaz and other guys that you want to give a day off from playing in the field.
     
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  5. Stros4me

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    I don’t see any value with Marwin at DH. His entire value is being on the field as a versatile player.
     
  6. Redfish81

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    I agree with you. Maybe you put him in left and have Brantley DH. I was just pointing out that to get him on the roster Kemp and White would most likely have to go. It doesn't make sense to spend the money on Marwin in my opinion. I would rather run Tyler White out at DH for 500k.
     
  7. Stros4me

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    I agree there too. The whole point of bringing in Brantley was to upgrade LF. Getting rid of White—one of our most productive players in 2018–to use most of remaining FA $ on Marwin is counterintuitive.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    Why would they keep Diaz *and* Marwin?
     
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  9. Mr.Pringles

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    That’s a great rotation of guys. And I do think Marwin could be a 130 game guy, he can spell anyone on the infield (and I expect more regular rest), be an impact in LF with talk of Brantley getting some days as DH or at 1B.

    There will be injuries and Tucker will be called up. If he reaches his level of expectation, he won’t go back down. It’s not like Tyler White or Marisnick aren’t replaceable or long term contracts with Tucker, Nova, Beer, etc coming through the system, they have trade value or could be outrighted
     
  10. Redfish81

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    I wouldn't. We were just responding to Crane saying they were open to bringing Marwin back. I don't think it makes sense.
     
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    We wouldn't.

    People are emotionally attached to Marwin and it's causing them to throw out any baseball logic.
     
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  12. The Beard

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    Exactly

    The ONLY way Marwin makes sense is if you trade Diaz, but then you consider the money difference and it still doesn’t make sense

    I love Marwin, we might not have a ring without him. Makes zero sense to sign him on this roster now
     
  13. Joe Joe

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    Marwin is a better 1B than Gurriel. Could also trade him.
     
  14. Snake Diggit

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    Diaz still has an option so he could be sent to the minors to make room for Marwin. But more likely it would mean trading White. I don’t think there’s a spot for Kemp either way (assuming everybody stays healthy).

    Unless Marwin is willing to come back for SUPER cheap (something like $10M/2yr), it just doesn’t make much sense. since Marwin can bat lefthanded it does make some sense to have him in the order between to righties:

    CF Springer
    LF Brantley
    3B Bregman
    2B Altuve
    SS Correa
    DH Marwin
    1B Gurriel
    RF Reddick
    C Chirinos
    Bench: Diaz/White/Kemp, Marisnick, Stassi
     
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  15. Snake Diggit

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    I do think Cranes comments should throw cold water on any idea of Houston signing Harper.
     
  16. jim1961

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    I dont think Crane's comments in regards to Marwin/DK mean anything at all. Just PR talk. Saying what he had to say is all there is here.
     
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    Sorry, I wasn’t referring to his comments on DK/Marwin; I was referring to his comments about the trend in free agency, and how giving out 10+ year deals is a bad idea:

    “I think that teams are very focused on value,” said Crane of the business-wide approach to free agency. “I don’t know that you’ll see many more ten-year deals in this business anymore because the analytics are so good and a lot of those deals never work.”
     
  18. jim1961

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    In that case, not necessarily. We could still sign Harper, but it would require Harper to take a significantly shorter deal. If any club wanted to sign Harper to 10 years, he would already be inked. So the question becomes, what length deal will Harper take?

    I cant help but think that the longer Harper is available, the shorter the deal he ultimately takes.
     
  19. Joe Joe

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    A lot of evidence teams are running out of money in their budgets. While 10/2 may still be low, I'm not sure it is out of the ballpark right now. Thinking 20-25/3 may do it.
     
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  20. Hemingway

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    We don't need Marwin, period. Diaz is comparable offensively and adequate defensively and cost way less. If we add another bat it needs to be a masher or an upgrade at catcher. I think we are done with position players unless something extremely lucky falls in our laps. We either re-sign DK or go to war with the current roster until the non-waiver deadline. It already is a much improved line-up with healthy Correa and Altuve and Brantley. Chirinos is an upgrade offensively. I would love Harper or Realmuto, but has become increasingly clear that we are not the front runners for any of them.
     
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