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[Official] Andrew Yang for President 2020 Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roxfreak724, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. dachuda86

    dachuda86 Member

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    No, UBI is trying to bribe for votes. Pretend that all you want. UBI will little affect jobs, and the reason Yang supports it is because people won't have jobs due to automation which is not nearly as big of a boogieman as he makes it out to be.
     
  2. Jump Ship

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    Except it’s already happening and happened. Again, what world do you live in?

    Since when is inflation due to increased demand a bad thing? Where there is demand, there is opportunity to grow.

    Tell me, does it cost more resources to make products every day in china then import them to the states, or making them here? Resources, not dollars. Globalists only care about cheap labor. They do not care about the environment.
     
  3. dachuda86

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    I'm not sure you understand the overall picture. When you have inflation, that negates the UBI overtime. If you raise the UBI, then that means prices just adjust to that. You aren't really getting anywhere. It is an illusion. If you can't understand that then I can't help you.
     
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    UBI is intended to help with necessities. Housing is the most basic necessity and UBI would create the most opportunity and growth in housing.

    For the rest of the stuff, it doesn’t matter. Look at Apple’s sales, they jacked up the price of the iPhone in 2018 and they sold less than ever—their worst year. They still made more money than they ever have, but the fact is more people than ever said we don’t need it. We can live without getting a new phone every year. Is that what you are really worried about?

    Even if the iPhone costs double the price and they start charging over $2000, only an idiot would take more than two months of all of their income to buy one.
     
  5. dachuda86

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    I feel like I already explained where this will go. Price will go up as people have more to spend. That is how markets work. So that UBI will be worthless. If you don't see it, fine. Vote for Yang bro.
     
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    Every argument you had was countered. That last example with apple disproves a lot of your fears. You fail to acknowledge how much growth and opportunity UBI creates. I acknowledged the type of inflation ubi creates due to increased demand, growth and opportunity. You kept trying to claim resources are limited and they really are not.

    The only resource that would be limited due to UBi is cheap labor, and frankly that is a good thing.
     
  7. dachuda86

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    Absolutely not. Your "counters" don't even address the issue and spin it in directions that distract from the argument. You have not disproven my points at all. In fact, you have embarrassed yourself. You clearly lack an understanding of economics, even suggesting the cost of planting food doesn't rise and that housing will just magically fix itself because land exists. You get excited about people being displaced from their homes and your Apple argument doesn't actually prove much. It actually just shows that you are limited in knowledge if Apple and McDonalds is all you know about.
     
  8. Jump Ship

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    The costs rise due to gas which is tied to ubi, and human capital which is good because we are paying more for labor. At the end of the day, how much more can someone charge me for bananas and apples? You are being extremely conservative arguing the cost of plant goods will raise significantly.

    I have disproven your claim regarding housing in multiple ways, and you still want to ignore what I said. The most important factor is in time any excess demand would be met with more growth and investment.

    I did counter your arguments, you just do not like the answers because they contradict your republican party.

    Apple is the best example because everyone rich or poor has an iPhone. Not everyone drives a Mercedes and not everyone eats McDonald’s. These are why I chose these examples. Think for a second.
     
  9. dachuda86

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    I am not a Republican... And not once did you actually make sense because you just go all over the place. This is just some arguing to argue from you because you think I am a Republican I guess.
     
  10. Jump Ship

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    Ok, you are extremely conservative based on your arguments which is why it seemed like you voted for trump.

    The thing you keep forgetting is we live in a capitalist society and anytime there is excess demand there are 5000 dicks lined up to take care of it.
     
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    Cuz p*****s fear change and problems (that can be solved). They continue to let them exist, saying things like thoughts and prayers, everything will be fine, inflation...

    The real issue is countries we import our goods and labor from would try to depreciate the dollar and give it less buying power unless we agree to let them have ubi (which would still depreciate the buying power of foreign labor). The upside is we bring more jobs home and waste less resources shipping goods overseas saving the planet.

    The biggest problem with ubi is it would increase competition and create new wealth. the elite hate hate hate that.
     
  12. Cohete Rojo

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    Which is why they love love love to import cheap labor.
     
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  13. Jump Ship

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    Uber conservatism is ok. Everyone can move to a place that needs more Uber drivers.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    This is why we need Yang to deliver us from capitalism and socialism.

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    Memes and political cartoons are childish. Importing the product of foreign labor is a drain on our resources. Things like iPhones are fine because they are small, I guess.
     
  16. BigggReddd

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    Trump and Trump.
     
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    Not suprised based on your post it is literally what conservative media is spewing. How does it feel to be a tool?
     
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    how tolerant of you.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Considering you didn't even vote how can you even begin to criticize someone who did?
     

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