Not only does America have the least cost-efficient healthcare system on the planet, with healthcare services costing about twice as much as they do in any other developed nation, but Americans actually pay far more in healthcare-related taxes than any other country as well. That’s right, America’s healthcare system is so grossly warped by corporatist parasites that its citizens currently pay far more in taxes for their healthcare than countries with socialized medicine do. Just to make this nice and clear for my libertarian readers, you would be paying fewer taxes for healthcare under an evil commie single-payer system than you are right now. http://www.newslogue.com/debate/413
My question was did you support Obama when he wanted a single payer system 8 years ago? If the answer is "no"; then why? There is little simple about Obama. He didn't attack or view healthcare reform as simple. He took what he could get passed and expended an incredible amount of political capital. Donald Trump is now learning what Obama already knew, it isn't simple to get change approved in the house and senate. Trump only wanted to modify an existing program and couldn't do it. Obama implemented a massive change not seen in government in 50 years. If a single payer system is the goal, why should the democtats agree with a proposal from Trump that would move FARTHER away from that goal? Donald Trump IS a Republican, what it means to be a Republican is changing. The same thing applied when Democrats said that Sanders or Warren were not Demcrats; they were/are; the party is changing. The reality is that short of a disaster (911 or WWII) it is very difficult for a President to make massive changes. Obama ran into that and so is Trump. One possibility if Trump really wants to have healthcare reform (I don't think it matters as much to him as his other projects) is to do something outside the box. An example is something that Warren suggested; buying at market value the rights to specific and important drugs. An example is a drug that treats hepatitis or some of the diabetes drugs. Right now there are tens of millions of people that cannot afford the medication because it is $10,000 a month or more. Buying the rights to the hepatitis drug would cost two billion dollars but would allow the government to treat people and ultimately cost less to tax payers than how we do it now. This is something that has been discussed with Trump and supposedly he didn't rule it out as a possibility.
lol Trump is governing on the GOP wish list of Ryan, McConnell etc. lol Nice try to do the both sides (Dems and Repubs )are equally at fault bs.
A lot of people didn't support it back then. Hell Democrats in the Senate couldn't wrap their heads around a public option let alone a single payer. The country has changed since 2009. More than the actual coverage and policy changes contained in the ACA, the biggest impact of the ACA was the change in attitude towards health insurance and health care. I think its safe to say that Americans expect and demand affordable health care. That was ultimately reflected in the Republican bill (as bad as it was). People see that the ACA has issues but there's no going backwards at this point. The next step will be the 1993 Clinton plan (state association plans) that merge the employer and individual markets together. I guarantee that you'll see politicians revive that idea and you'll see others go further to the left and propose a single payer of some sort. My hope is that they look north to Canada instead of across the ocean. Canada's system is more akin to Medicaid than Medicare and that's the only viable way to ever introduce something like that in the US.
I know that this statement is tongue and cheek, but in a country where single-payer exists, wouldn't that create a new market for insurers and providers to offer some type of supplemental coverage or care to people who can afford it? Thus allowing them a higher level of timely service?
I don't disagree with you........ and this is also in line with what the Obama administration expected when they settled for what they knew was a very flawed AHCA was passed....
Obama care served its purpose, that is getting people the coverage, now they cannot just repeal it without replacement. I still do not see how total healthcare cost will decrease in the future because too many people want it to continue as it is today.
For the folk who don't know. I take my medicare card and go to the doctors and hospitals I CHOOSE Naturally. It would be like the constitutional right of folks with lots of money to buy other medical services. Folks with Medicare are perfectly free to pay for other care. Similarly if you have are eligible for social security you are free to decline the check. Essentially Medicare for all would operate like current Medicare. You are free to choose your own doctor, hospital etc. or free to not use it and pay out of your own pocket to go to other doctors. Once everyone has single payer or Medicare for All there would probably be a few specialists who are world famous or do things like purely cosmetic surgery who would charge those who can afford to pay with cash. I suppose like pet insurance the corps cd offer policies. National Health Care will be the safety net.
Obamacare gave about 10 million folks who had not been able to buy private insurance a taste of it. Another ten million roughly got Medicaid, in neighboring states like Louisiana and Arkansas, but not in the selfish state of Texas. Those with the private insurance discovered the reality of private healthcare-- what the rest of have known-- that every year the premiums go up, the deductibles go up and if you want to spend approximately the same you have to keep downgradin to a worse plan every year or so.
'pecially when those darkies are getting the same treatment and care as you....before you in many case.
No idea how legit this story is, but the drug companies provide major subsidies for drugs if you are poor and don't have insurance. The people that fall thru the cracks are the ones that make a little too much money. Also, just because you have insurance doesn't mean these things are suddenly free. There is a lot of shitty insurance with high deductibles that don't cover much of the cost. And not that any of the people in this potential story knew anything about buying drugs online, but you can buy asthma inhalers online cheap. You can get 9 inhalers of albuterol for $82. That's 1800 doses. No idea if that drug is sufficient, but my point is drugs are cheap as hell online.
There a bunch of drama to get it passed, like Sen. Ted Kennedy's death and the eventual loss of invoking cloture...and using budget reconciliation to pass most of the crucial bits. All that Sturm and Drang and this is what we got. I guess if data collection infrastructure gains critical mass in the healthcare sector, we would eventually cut a substantial chunk in waste. Too bad those systems are sometimes 10-15 years behind and are a federated mess.
A bunch of Congressmen in gerrymandered districts who campaign on their ability to obstruct regular order or a president with an approval rating below 40%. This one doesn't seem like much of a contest.
