So, when Trump says "Fake News" it is actually real news, it is when Trump says listen to me, that it is actually "Fake News" Some day the ignorant will figure it out. DD
LOL that's just stupid. Saying "I wouldn't be surprised if it was true" isn't' "falling for" anything. I still wouldn't be surprised if it came out that surveillance was done at Trump Tower during the election. The difference between me and you is that I don't really care one way or the other if it happened or not
I base it on things the Obama administration has done in the past along with them potentially having something to investigate. I'm not one of those simple minded overly emotional people who go around calling people "evil" simply because they don't agree with their political ideology or their actions.
Well, yeah. Obama administration hires have done many things both unethical and outright illegal from the IRS scandal to the unethical way they handled the Hillary Clinton case and even beyond that with all of the leaks from those who haven't been replaced yet. From the beginning it was clear that they were putting ideologues in positions of power and that those people valued ideology over ethics. This really isn't up for debate. That said, I'm not saying for sure that they did or didn't do anything with respect to Trump Tower surveillance, I'm merely saying that it wouldn't be out of character for them to do something like that.
The history of people in the Obama administration using their position for political purposes goes back well before anyone cared what Trump tweets about so yeah, I'd have felt the same if someone brought up the issue before a Trump tweet. Me thinking that it wouldn't be out of character for people in the Obama administration to use their position for political purposes has nothing to do with anything Trump has ever said or tweeted. You do know that I'm not exactly a fan of Trump right? In fact, I was one of the first "Never Trump" people....so it's odd that you are suggesting that I'd be swayed by a Trump tweet.
well before trumps tweet you never voiced out this concern then trump's tweet gave you the courage to voice out the conspiracy in your head and now after even his tweet is debunked were you a birther too? or did you think obama is a closet muslim as well?
That's a pretty impressively stupid response and it shows that you don't actually understand what I said....so I'm not sure where we go from here.
I mean a sitting president ordering the surveillance of a presidential candidate is kind of Nixonian would you agree?
Sure, it would be, but that's not what I was talking about. I never suggested that Obama would have ordered any of it, rather that I wouldn't be surprised if members in his administration would have done so. I also said that there's no chance that if they did it that Trump Tower, or Trump himself would have been the target because that would cause a ton of red flags. It also wouldn't be a physical phone tap. I mean, were you paying attention at all to the conversation? I went over all of this with you and somehow you are acting completely lost.
this is the topic on hand right? "How low has President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!" sorry if i didn't notice goal posts were moved already
Nope, the goalposts were never moved, you just didn't pay attention to the conversation.....a conversation that started with you replying to me saying "I still wouldn't be surprised if it came out that surveillance was done at Trump Tower during the election." That's where we started out, but apparently you got lost along the way.
okay lets talk about that. its a very broad statement who do you think would have carried out the surveillance? the govt? which govt agency? wsa it legal or illegal? or you think it's outside of the govt?
