Now Looking at Butler, Melo & P.G deals (do you think we gave up too much for CP3 ?)

we could have traded that haul for a first rounder, signed CP3 outright, and then had 2 first rounders to offer in trade for unloading ryno

 

we have a habit of sitting on stuff too long, like we did with Asik. The pieces in that deal with the celtics would have really helped the team that yr.

Rockets are still good, lets not sweat it.

 

I don’t think we have up too much.

Thunder and Twolves got a lot better. No doubt.

We got one of the best pgs of all time.

Thunder are going to be interesting to watch.

I thought that with two guys that like to pass in Harden and CP3 Melo would be a good fit.

In OKC I think there’s a chance they could cannibalize each other.

We’ll see though. And really I doubt the Rockets are just going to let this ride as is.

 

the only reason we were in the running for an above average player in carmelo is b/c of cp3 and b/c of his NTC. we don't have the assets to really make any deals for a good player going forward now. in fact we need assets to attach to ryno's contract to get rid of him

 

Ok.

 

I say no we didn't give up too much. We did right by the Clips and maybe that comes into play in the future regarding possible deals.

Could someone like Dekker have helped enough to land Melo? Maybe, maybe not.

Melo would have been a nice 3rd option, but it still would have come with risks. It didn't happen, so let's move on.

 

You are forgetting what we would of had to do to make room for CP3, we had to shed salary.

 

We gave alot for a 1 year rental.

 

Butler you could argue was fair.


A young heralded player, #7 pick, and last year's #5. Granted 7 and Dunn probably have a likelier chance of busting.

But otherwise, yes, take into account Paul could've outright signed here.

 

This is Chris Paul. ..with some good tread left.

When we're widely considered a legit contender, the ringchasers will replace what we lost.

 

As Conor McGregor would say:

Fock da Toonder!

 

You have to blame Morey and Chris Paul for this. Chris could've have easily just signed here but because he wanted that max he chose to come here only on a sign and trade. That sign and trade turned out to include Sam, Harrell, BEV, Lou, and a future 1st for CP. I said a while back when this trade went down that thisncould come back and bite Morey in the ass, well it did. Based on what OKC gave up for Melo it's clear to me that BEV and Harrell could've netted you CP3 since we did have enough salary cap to absorb the remaining of CP3's contract and Dekker, Harrell, Anderson, and a future 1st rounder could've never you Melo.
Morey messed this up in the begging when he agreed to trade for CP who in his interview wanted to do right by LA and didn't want to leave them hanging high and dry which is another reason why he chose a sign and trade over a straight up sign.
OKC will probabaly be the 2nd best team in the West, Russ will resign along with PG and Melo because they will probably challenge the Warriors and once again OKC teaches HOU how to be a well run franchise. God this bothers me so much! We are always getting **** blocked by OKC or GS and all bc we make tardes seem SUPER difficult to make while OKC is trading for starts left and right like its ****ing Pokémon.

 

i don't think we're a legit contender or even close. and more importantly, if cp3 doesn't believe so by the end of the season, he's gone for sure and we're left choosing b/t the 8th seed or 14th pick every year again

 

Trading for cp3 kept his cap hit low in order to obtain the MLE.

We could not have signed cp3 outright. In order to do so, we would have had to trade every player listed above plus Ryan Anderson. And I'm doin so would not have the full mle used on tucker.

They didn't want Ryan either, so we had to use those players to obtain the neccasy salary amount needed for cp3. Calculations were off a smidge (this is Moreys fault) and had to throw in Harrell last second to make it work.

So in order to shed Ryan to clear cap room to sign cp3 it would take 2 1sts and a team with ample cap space. Then you would have to trade bev Lou etc for no salary also.


Tl;dr get your facts straight. Signing cp3 outright was gonna take extreme salary gymnastics. I don't think we needed to add the 1st but it is what it is, morey clearly wanted to get it done and a late 20something pick wasn't going to stop him from acquiring the player he has called multiple times "the most complete pg of all time"

 

What did morey do that indicates he was "too excited" exactly?

 

In a vacuum, no. But in comparison, yes. I dont see how anyone can see it any other way.

 

I was good with all of it until we included the 1st. I mean that was quite the load of players, I'm thinking we could of got out of it w/o giving the 1st. That surprised me.

 

we are argubaly worse than the spurs, have less firepower than the thunder, maybe the twolves, and maybe even the clippers who knows.

and keep in mind cp3 did NOT make the all-star team last year, who knows he could be on the down swing of his career, kinda like when we got dwight