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[#NoCollusion] Should Trump go after the media and Democrats?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Mar 25, 2019.

  1. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    Wrong.

    Australian Intelligence is why the investigation started.
     
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  2. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    I think he is referring to this?
    Trump aide told Australian diplomat Russia had dirt on Clinton – report
    George Papadopoulos spoke to high commissioner Alexander Downer at London bar in May 2016, catalyzing FBI investigation, New York Times reports

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...quiry-george-papadopoulos-australian-diplomat
     
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  3. NewRoxFan

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    question... firing squads or hanging?

     
  4. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    You are going to be so sad again lars. Don't do this to yourself.
     
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  5. JuanValdez

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    I don't think we were really considering actually executing Trump if that makes you feel any better.
     
  6. larsv8

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    When was I sad the first time? I am extremely pleased that the president is not a foreign agent. Although I have concerns that the report, when it is released, will show evidence of it, but not enough to be conclusive.

    I am also extremely pleased that numerous criminals, and generally bad people, that are going to jail.

    All and all, this is a huge win.

    I still have questions, and will patiently await the release of the report, as well as the conclusion of the dozen or so other investigations

    You seem to struggle to understand what it is like to not be bound by tribalism.
     
  7. Nook

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    Nah.

    If there was strong evidence that a President (any President) is compromised and is a foreign agent for another nation; they need to be executed. That isn't something to play around with. Kill them.
     
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    Liquidating the traitor's estate is implicit, right?
     
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  9. NewRoxFan

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    Aw, please? sarah wants someone killed. If just for example. Can't we off a reporter. Or Democrat?
     
  10. Roc Paint

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    You people truly are the cheese of the DD
     
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    Do you understand that parts of the dossier have been verified? Do you understand that a dossier is not something that states supposed facts but more like a collection of rumors gathered by intel in order to see where to investigate? It isn't presented as proof of anything.

    Which parts of the dossier have been shown to be false?
     
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    You do understand that parts of the dossier have been verified? I haven't seen which parts have been shown to be false. Though a dossier certainly contains false information since it is basically nothing more than a collection of rumors. As is usual with rumors some turn out to be true (as they have in this case) and some turn out to be false.
     
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  13. Mr.Scarface

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    Um.....They can't do anything unless the Report is released. Just because their were no OTHER indictments, doesn't mean there was nothing. Remember...34 people, including 6 with direct ties to the Trump Campaign were indicted.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I agree, let's have some sunlight hit the actual report before we start talking about investigating democrats for........?

    Do you forget that it was a Republican who appointed a Republican special prosecutor?

    Did you also forget that the special counsel wasn't appointed to investigate Trump, but rather Russian influence in the 2016 election?
     
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  15. Cohete Rojo

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    How many in media or Democrats have been arrested?

    I certainly think there is one individual who has it coming.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. No Worries

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    DoJ clears Trump; you accept that.

    DoJ clears Hillary; you do not.

    Admit it. You are a partisan.
     
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    I will point out this is coming from the same people who promised impeachment hearings if Clinton had won who still chant "Lock Her Up!" at rallies. Further this idea that this was all a lie and a hoax have missed that the investigation led to 6 guilty convictions of Trump associates, many more indictment out there, tens of millions in fines, and that Barr's statement specifically said that Trump isn't exonerated all show that there is some fire under that smoke. This idea that we now need to investigate the investigators and that it was treasonous to investigate a sitting president is the exactly the kind of behavior one expects out of a third world dictatorship..
     
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  18. NewRoxFan

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    I do admit that the "but her emails" chants have quieted down recently. Hmm... I wonder why?

    Lawyer for Kushner and Ivanka Trump acknowledged use of private email, Democrats say
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jared-...r-official-government-business-democrats-say/

    Trump: 'I know nothing' about Kushner's WhatsApp messaging
    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-did-not-know-kushners-whatsapp-messaging-152133065.html
     
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    I think Trump should definitely let this go and get back to the more important business of calling John McCain a big poo-poo face via Twitter.
     
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    Wall Street Journal Editorial Board this morning:

    Accountability for a Dossier
    The dirty trick that started the collusion fable needs exposing.
    By
    The Editorial Board
    March 25, 2019 7:05 p.m. ET

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller has dispatched the Russia collusion theories to the land of cranks and bitter-enders, but there are still some loose ends. To wit, how did the partisan propaganda known as the Steele dossier become the basis for an unprecedented FBI probe of a presidential campaign, an abuse of law enforcement, and two years of media and political hysteria?

    We know the outlines of the story but not all the details, and no one has yet been held accountable under the law or even held to much public scrutiny. It’s time for both.

    The dossier was concocted in spring 2016 by oppo-research firm Fusion GPS, and financed by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Fusion hired former British spy Christopher Steele to compile sensational claims, based on anonymous Russian sources, that Donald Trump was compromised by Russian intelligence.

    Mr. Steele used his intelligence contacts to get the dossier to an Obama State Department official and the FBI. Fusion GPS chief Glenn Simpson funneled it to the FBI through Justice Department employee Bruce Ohr, and even planted it directly with former FBI general counsel James Baker via Mother Jones reporter David Corn.

    All of this should have set off FBI klaxon bells. Mr. Baker has told Congress the FBI was wary of the dossier’s provenance, but FBI Director Jim Comey and his team nonetheless made the dossier a central feature of their unprecedented counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign in July 2016.

    That included using the dossier’s allegations as part of its application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for a wiretap warrant in October 2016 against former Trump aide Carter Page. The FBI obscured for the court the damning information it had about Mr. Simpson’s political paymasters. Mr. Comey has testified that the FBI targeted at least four Trump-related individuals.

    Messrs. Simpson and Steele also spread all this to their friends in the press. They obliged with stories that portrayed the Steele info as credible, validated by the FBI’s interest, including a Yahoo News piece by Michael Isikoff on Sept. 23, 2016, “U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin.”

    On Oct. 31, 2016, Mr. Corn ran his story, “A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging A Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump.” Mr. Comey’s briefing to President-elect Trump in January 2017 was leaked and provided the media a hook to publish the dossier. The collusion panic took off.

    Mr. Mueller’s conclusion that there was no collusion suggests that he was not able to verify the dossier’s claims, and there needs to be a reckoning. The country has endured two years of angst and controversy based on a politically motivated invention financed by the Clinton campaign and promoted by former Obama CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

    The Justice Department Inspector General is investigating, and so should prosecutors. Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham is promising hearings, and he should put this entire crowd under oath. The Steele dossier looks like one of the nastiest dirty tricks in political history, and its authors and promoters should be held accountable.


    Appeared in the March 26, 2019, print edition.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/accountability-for-a-dossier-11553555149?mod=hp_opin_pos3
     
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