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NJ.com: Nets might buy out Lucious Harris - PG option for Rockets?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Deuce, Jul 30, 2004.

  1. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Was reading about the implosion of the Nets. Pretty sad.

    One interesting thing I read was that the Nets are looking to perhaps buy out Lucious Harris' contract for this year. He only has 2.6M on his contract and it expires after this season. Would Harris be a nice makeshift PG for this team? That's about the same money that Antonio Daniels is making. Instead of cutting him the Nets could just send him to us and we could absorb his contract via our T.E.

    Sure Harris isn't a prototypical PG but he played a fair amount of backup PG in NJ. He has nice size at 6'5" and shoots a decent 38% behind the 3pt line. I dont think we need a "playmaker" persay as our PG so perhaps Harris' skills would work well on this team. Granted he is 33, but he does have significant playoff experience.

    Just a thought.


    Also, there is a mention in there about free agent Eric Williams. The Nets are hoping they can get him for half their MLE. I wouldnt mind the Rockets getting in the bidding there with slightly more than half the MLE for Williams' services.


    http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1091164231266180.xml

    Nets: Kidd ready to walk

    Friday, July 30, 2004

    BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
    Star-Ledger Staff

    The Bruce Ratner Fire Sale continued in earnest yesterday, when the Nets gave away yet another piece of their franchise -- and their history -- by shipping Kerry Kittles to the Los Angeles Clippers for virtually nothing.

    Which raises the question: Just how low can the Nets go?

    This low: According to a team official, Jason Kidd returned from his Mexican vacation yesterday and immediately requested a meeting with management at Ratner's earliest convenience, at which time the Nets' captain is expected to demand a trade.

    And to further illustrate the goals of the new ownership group, a close friend of Alonzo Mourning yesterday disclosed that the disabled center wants to attempt a comeback, but has been informed by the team that his services are no longer desired, as it would rather lop his salary off the cap after next season.

    Team president Rod Thorn, who in an afternoon conference call with reporters sounded as though he had his soul ripped out by a savage tax collector, attempted to spin the Kittles trade into a positive move that will allow his depleted team to fill the gaping voids at other positions while saving the $9.8 million that remained on Kittles' contract.

    "The purpose for us was very simple: We're obviously trying to restructure our team, and it's going to make it much easier after we make this deal," said Thorn, whose team received a second-round draft pick in the deal, which also included a $1.5 million payment to L.A.

    "I feel very confident we'll end up with a strong two-guard position, but we have other needs we have to address, and if we stayed the way we were, we wouldn't be able to address them. That in a nutshell is why we did this trade."

    The ramifications, however, could get very complicated -- and ugly.

    Thorn, whose team picked up journeyman subs Rodney Buford and Jacque Vaughn yesterday, said last night that his conversation with Kidd about the Kittles deal was brief.

    "I talked to someone who was with him," Thorn said. "I talked to Jason for about three seconds."

    Presumably enough time for Kidd to slam down the phone. While Thorn would not confirm Kidd's mood or whether a meeting was requested, Kidd's anger over the sacrifice of his backcourt partner was felt throughout the organization -- so much that it is now widely assumed that he will demand a trade.

    Agent Jeff Schwartz, who was traveling yesterday, did not return calls seeking comment. But another member of Kidd's inner circle predicted the worst.

    "He took the Nets' money because they told him they were going to try to win the championship -- false pretenses," Kidd's friend said. "Knowing Jason, he'll want out. I'd bet that he's not playing until they trade him."

    The Nets have now lost three of their top seven players -- Kenyon Martin, Rodney Rogers and Kittles -- and received no live bodies in return. They have also trimmed their payroll from $62 million to its present $47.5 million, and there is no guarantee that they are done hacking more salaries. It is possible, for example, that the Nets will buy out Lucious Harris, who has $2.65 million coming to him next season.

    It also appears as though they would dissuade Mourning from returning, even though he has been in the gym almost daily for the past two months. According to Zo's friend, he told the Nets that he would like to play again, and showed ample readiness with a strong performance at his charity game last week. But the team would rather see him retire -- thereby allowing it to save $12 million after the last two years of his salary come off the salary cap.

    Mourning's agent, Jeff Wechsler, said last night that a comeback from last December's kidney transplant "hasn't come up -- Alonzo made his comments earlier this summer that he has no plans to play, and I'd believe what Alonzo says."

    Thorn added, "He's been working out, and there's certainly no doubt that if he can play he would like to play...but it's too early to comment about it."

    When asked whether the bean counters would welcome Mourning back, Thorn's response was intentionally vague: "If he's able to play," he said, "I'm sure he'll be here."

    Kittles leaves New Jersey after 496 games covering seven seasons, in which time he became the Nets' second-leading scorer behind Buck Williams. He also had more steals than any other Net besides Darwin Cook, played more minutes than anyone other than Williams, and led the franchise in most 3-point categories.

    Still, Thorn referred to Kittles as "a role player. If you look at our team, we have spots to fill. By making this trade it puts us in a better position to fill other spots."

    Besides the Clippers' second-round pick next year, the Nets also get a $9.8 million exception that can be used only in a trade, but they are not likely to use it. To fill out the roster, Thorn has targeted Ron Mercer and Newark native Eric Williams, hopeful they'd be willing to split their midlevel exception, that extra $4.9 million fund that capped-out teams can spend on free agents.

    "There's interest on the Nets' part and the lure of New Jersey is attractive on Eric's part," agent Mark Bartelstein said yesterday. "I think he'd be a great fit in a variety of ways."
     
  2. Pole

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    I know this is WAY out there, but if they are so darn intent on trimming salary AND Jason Kidd demands a trade AND we have one or two trade exceptions, wouldn't that make us front runners for Kidd?
     
  3. GoT

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    With all these talk about trading for Kidd, I would like to know if Jim Jackson and Kidd are still talking about the problem that they had.
     
  4. JumpMan

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    Three MAX contracts on one team? That isn't going to happen on the Rockets...
     
  5. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Let's not derail the subject with Jason Kidd talk. Forget Kidd to the Rockets, it is not going to happen here.

    The question at hand is Lucious Harris. Could he be a SERIOUS option for us as a PG for next season considering the options that might be out there as of right now?
     
  6. mogrod

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    I dont know a whole lot about Harris, but I'm sure he would be an option if he gets bought out.

    Could we get Jefferson? I'm sure he doesn't want to be there anymore and his contract ends this season. I'm sure the Nets would like to get something for him.
     
  7. gucci888

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    Isn't Harris a SG? I know he is a good shooter, but the guy has never averaged more than 2apg in 11 seasons. I wouldn't mind picking him up for some minutes behind TMac, but he isn't a PG, especially a starting PG.

    Not sure what plans (if any) that CD and Les have going on. But our options are diminishing everyday. They don't feel like Jones is a big upgrade over Lue, but I believe he is. Whats wrong with a 4yr/22M deal?
     
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    The man with Iron Mask

    Sure why not. They will want Spoon+Pike to be their Franchise players.
     
  9. dharocks

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    Harris does a little bit of everything, but he's better coming off the bench. He's super streaky. Not a lot of perimeter consistency, and he's getting up there in age. Good sixth man, but I don't think he can play PG full time.
     
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    The Nets want to build around him. Therefore, I'm guessing no... unless Jefferson really, really, really wants to leave.
     
  11. darkwarrior

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    I don't know; just an idea, but we're looking for a backup center right? maybe we could persuade him to come here.
     
  12. m_cable

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    Our TE isn't big enough to take on Kidd. So in that case, we have nothing to offer NJ who is probably looking for salary reduction, young players, and draft picks.
     
  13. CriscoKidd

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    Harris isn't a pg. He isn't that good of a sg either.
     
  14. Rivaldo2181

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    That would be a DREAM come true for me...ZO has always been one of my favorite players!!!
     
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    He's not chopped liver, but he is far from good these days.
     
  16. rocketfat

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    far from true. like i mentioned in another thread, i dont know the salary cap ramifications of any combo of these, but some combo of nachbar, gaines, lue, maybe mo t or howard, along with some draft picks would be a very reasonable deal for the nets.
     
  17. codell

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    Thats what I was thiking too.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    I think we'd be doing New Jersey an unnecessary favor by trading a TE for Harris. If they want to cut him, let them cut him. Then, if we wanted him, we could sign him for cheaper than $2.6 million.
     
  19. MONON

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    I was just thinking the same thing. I have no idea what his contract situation is, but backing up Yao for 10 to 15 minutes plus maybe some time at pf would be a great comback trail. If it doesn't work out, we're no worse off than now.
     
  20. mogrod

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    Zo is making roughly $5.4 mil. this season, $5.9 mil. next season and $6.4 mil. in the 06'-07'season according to HoopsHype.
     

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