Hell, I recently read that Nixon was trying to take away the right to carry handguns, and I was gonna give him some credit, if grudgingly, for not being a total scumf***. Never mind.
That's hardly old news. I knew that already. Also going to observe that it was pretty much a ploy by Hanoi, which you know, was what they pulled repeatedly in order to deceive a President who had no clue what he was doing in Vietnam Though there is one line rim didn't highlight that I found very interesting. . And really, how is Nixon the father of modern Republicans? Nixon wasn't as fanatically ideologically compared to the Tea Party. He was better educated, smarter, and did far more for this country than the Tea Party. He negotiated with America's enemies, broke the power of the Gold Standard, helped regulate the environment, and established various department agencies. I guess if you ignore that, he's just like the modern Republicans.
Unfortunately, all of those WWII guys (JFK - Carter) would have extended the Vietnam War as long as possible. None of the Presidents involved has any clean hands, each made at least one critical decision in their particular Administration that both compromised their own ethics and made the War deadlier and more intractable.
You think JFK wanted war in Vietnam? & yes I believe Nixon is as terrible a human being as Dick Cheney
He was also a freaking paranoid nutter who was obsessed with completely destroying anyone he perceived to be a personal enemy. J. Edgar Hoover of all people thought he was too extreme and out there. I really have trouble understanding why you admire the dude so much.
So in the scheme of things how does it compare to say maybe someone doing a drive by and killing a mother and her child to starting an entire war for oil or some other type of profit??
JFK provoked war in Cuba, a country that was geographically closer and more culturally and socially aligned with US than Vietnam ever would be. He blocked re-unification elections and knowingly allowed the South Vietnamese leadership to be assassinated. All of these guys were crippled with postwar anti-communism and a lingering quasi-colonial Euro-centrism that precluded them from making strategically or ethically sound or even marginally forward-thinking decisions regarding non-Western countries. Your Cheney analogy is transparently partisan. He was Bush 41's Defense Secretary when communism fell and during the first Gulf War, which prevented a brutal dictator from conquering the Middle East and cornering the world's oil market, and was fully aligned with America's and the rest of the developed world's permanent strategic interests.
Wanted? No. But he caused it, and so I don't particularly care about what Kennedy's intentions were. Because I can easily forgive a guy who has numerous personal flaws if he knows what he's doing.
Wage and price controls didn't make a lot of sense particularly with newly free-floating currencies and an oil crisis; and his dealings with the Fed Chairman were less than ethical in any context. But to your broader and fully relevant point in this Vietnam War thread, Nixon something liberal bad.
Except that Nixon's "personal" flaws directly effected his very early campaigning style; and, most critically, his governance, campaigning and relationship with his Justice Department while he was in office led directly to a full-on constitutional crisis. In the same way that Clinton's lechery and poor-boy competitiveness led that same Yale Law grad to mislead a Congressionally-appointed prosecutor and a Federal grand jury about sex for over a year.
Just get off your lazy ass and do some basic research to support your blind and presumably politically biased allegation.
Oh, please. Not this stupid argument again. That's the only comment I'm going to make, unless I copy and paste some posts from the several previous threads dealing with the topic. Carry on.
