Night Club Shooting. Possible Hostages Situation

RR is making a good point. People who want the ISIS/fear card will embrace a possible psychopath's statement as gospel. Others may want to look for more evidence.

He had communicated with radicals. He had also pledged allegiance to other terrorist organizations that don't even tolerate one another, so it's not obvious how to take his pledges of allegiance.

Seems we can agree he was at least ISIS sympathetic. But in the end, it may have been easier for him to digest a last minute "it's all about ISIS" than his internal possibly closeted demons.

The whole truth died with him, another mass-murdering American citizen who was probably mentally ill.

But I know, Bobby, you will know the pure truth more than anyone else because... Bobby.

 

If you take his own words along with what the FBI says about him and his internet browsing history where he consumed a ton of "jihadist propaganda", along with what his wife has said, along with what his father has said, along with the information that he attended an extremist mosque that has produced an Al Qaeda suicide bomber....I mean it paints a pretty clear picture of him as a radicalized Muslim.

Could he have also been a closet homosexual? Of course, it could happen, but there is solid evidence of his actions being terror related and only rumors about his possible sexual orientation. Also, I still don't see how his potential sexual orientation is even relevant. He's not less of a terrorist if he was secretly gay.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Neighbor who knew Omar Mateen tells <a href="https://twitter.com/WPTV">@WPTV</a> he had U.S. Marine stickers on his car, including one that read Semper Fi. <a href="https://t.co/MoRyL5uPt2">https://t.co/MoRyL5uPt2</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Chavers (@JoshuaChavers) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshuaChavers/status/742119636720746496">June 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Omar Mateen had a second wife who apparently knew about his attack plans: <a href="https://t.co/uepXui80Dd">https://t.co/uepXui80Dd</a> <a href="https://t.co/FVX6srMbgu">pic.twitter.com/FVX6srMbgu</a></p>&mdash; Slate (@Slate) <a href="https://twitter.com/Slate/status/742758648183558145">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Omar Mateen -- Wife Helped Him Buy Ammo, Claims She Tried To Stop Him <a href="https://t.co/xcx1EBlv5j">https://t.co/xcx1EBlv5j</a></p>&mdash; TMZ (@TMZ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/742753243046912000">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JUST IN: Noor Mateen, wife of Orlando shooting suspect Omar Mateen, being considered for possible criminal charges, officials tell <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC">@ABC</a>.</p>&mdash; ABC News (@ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABC/status/742743258644652032">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Male former police academy classmate of Omar Mateen says he was gay, went to gay clubs with him, asked him out. <a href="https://t.co/QcuuOjOITG">https://t.co/QcuuOjOITG</a></p>&mdash; Josh Barro (@jbarro) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/742536559338065920">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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****ing here we go again...active shooter at a wal mart in Amarillo

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Police say a former Walmart worker has taken a manager hostage. We are following this story closely. <a href="https://t.co/xnoQNAqK5J">https://t.co/xnoQNAqK5J</a></p>&mdash; ABC News 4 (@ABCNews4) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABCNews4/status/742760261325590528">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> Police on scene of possible active shooter with hostages at a Walmart in Texas. <a href="https://t.co/JRHJt0QMJo">https://t.co/JRHJt0QMJo</a> <a href="https://t.co/kVZIfhBBT5">pic.twitter.com/kVZIfhBBT5</a></p>&mdash; WPEC CBS12 News (@CBS12) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBS12/status/742760175438823424">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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So second suspect was the wife, not a second shooter. That Twitter math wiz was wrong

 

well. If it's Muslim then it's a terrorist attack. If anything else then just a crazy guy.

 

This is what I don't understand. Dude hung out at that club before too and had drinks. He was abusive to his wife. She said he hasd bipolar disorder. I suppose he was another crazy shooter and this wasn't terrorism.

 

Did anyone really believe his math led to a definite second suspect?

 

No one intelligent believed that nonsense.....but unfortunately I'd bet a lot did.

 

Domestic terrorism is synonymous with "crazy guy", especially when "crazy guy" is not white.

 

Update on the Walmart situation:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/277323-breaking-active-shooter-situation-at-walmart-in-amarillo-texas/

 

Somali? Ugh

 

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yea. he pledges allegiance to sunni and shia groups. that's one equal opportunity terrorist right there. in the mean time i support kool-aid, wyler's, and the war on obesity at the same damn time.

hate crime. get it right.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AmarilloPD">@AmarilloPD</a> Tweets suspect in Wal-Mart incident has been shot and killed. Hostages are safe. <a href="https://t.co/rgydeu5K0u">https://t.co/rgydeu5K0u</a></p>&mdash; NBC DFW (@NBCDFW) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCDFW/status/742775496543510528">June 14, 2016</a></blockquote>
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What was the shooter's sexual preference? I think that's the only way we can know their motive.

 

You know how professionals establish motive? Investigations.

I know it blows your mind but that's how it works.