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NFL considering proposal to abolish extra points

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Jan 20, 2014.

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  1. Rocketman95

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    There is never a commerical between the TD and extra point unless there is a review of some sort or an injury, then maybe they'll breakaway. The TV timeouts come after the PAT and then after the kick-off (mostly).
     
  2. Indaface

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    TD worth 7 points.

    30 yard race for the ball between the fastest WR and CB for the extra point.
     
  3. boomboom

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    Would like to see Australian Rules Football goal umpire gun slinging point added to denote made field goals instead of the boring NFL referee two arms up signal.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    Like it. Extra point is stupid.
     
  5. nachbarFTW

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    I agree, for 2 points that is.
     
  6. Surfguy

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    Leave it all the same except blindfold the kicker for the extra point attempt. lol
     
  7. Nick

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    Nice post.

    Interesting to see that the rate dropped off that much for 30-35 yarders... would figure it would still be higher.

    I would still think the "stress factor" of making an extra point (regardless of distance) is less than that of a FG, and that would have to be factored in. Additionally, the ball always gets spotted in the middle of the field for XP's... not so for any FG's.

    Kickers don't think twice about XP's, and its not just because of the short distance... whereas any FG (including the close ones) have an added built-in pressure factor since the ability to score or not on that drive rests entirely on the kick.

    So, presuming that the built-in stress factor goes down for an XP of 30+ yards (vs. a FG of 30+ yards), and the make rate goes up, I still don't think they'd see enough misses at that distance.

    Now, if they moved back the 2 point conversion, then that would certainly decrease that conversion %... and make things more even.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

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    That means there will be an extra 30 seconds after TDs for commercials so I guess it will happen.

    Football: commercials, commercials, action, commercials.
     
  9. justtxyank

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    :confused:

    I mean, I feel like there are too many commercials but do you really think it's that bad?
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    I can tell a huge difference between the NFL and college games with the extra timeout after the kickoff. I hate that so much.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    I vote yes.

    As much as a I like football from a strategic point of view, as a spectator sport, it's one of the worst we have.

    Basketball and soccer to me as just so much more watchable because the flow of the game is better.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    It's hard to go to games any more for me. And even during the playoffs when I've been at home alone watching them, I find myself reading a book and glancing up at the screen for the play itself.
     
  13. Nick

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    I cannot watch a non-Texans game without red-zone (Where there are no commercials). In fact, I can barely watch a Texans game without red-zone.

    The playoffs have been painful with one single game, and no others to keep track of... which is why I think the NFL actually suffers from decreased overall interest in their playoffs vs. regular season.
     
  14. TexasStake

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    even had one as much as earlier this year. Redskins @ Buccaneers in preseason, a missed XP. That was the moment the Buccs knew they were officially screwed lol
     
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    Competition committee discussing 43-yard extra point

    The extra point has become the NFL's great afterthought. Could a substantial change be on the horizon?

    NFL Media's Judy Battista reports the NFL Competition Committee is in preliminary talks about placing the ball at the 25-yard line for the point-after attempt. That would make the extra point a 43-yard attempt.

    The ball is currently spotted at the 2-yard line, a 20-yard chip shot that was converted 99.6 percent of the time during the 2013 season. The kick was so automatic that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell floated the idea in January of eliminating the PAT entirely.

    "There is no consensus yet," one member of the committee told Battista. "We could experiment in preseason, but we are not there yet."

    Placing the ball at the 25-yard line would certainly increase the degree of difficulty for kickers. The conversion rate of field goals between 40 and 49 yards last season was 83 percent.

    Those odds are still favorable, but it adds another layer of strategy for coaches who also have the option to attempt a two-point conversion. Teams that "go for two" are typically successful about 50 percent of the time.

    Change is probably overdue. Kickers have never been better at their jobs than they are right now. These are skilled specialists who have outgrown the model. The game must evolve with the players.​
     
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    If this goes through it would certainly increase the importance of having good kickers.


    Honestly going for 2 might become the better value (moreyball)
     
  17. sugrlndkid

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    Why not do this then...

    1. Add an extra player on defense or subtract a player from offense if a team decides to go for the extra point FG and set the ball at the 20 YD line...An extra player will make a huge difference...

    2. If a team decides to go for 2 points, they will have to start at the 5 yard line instead of the 2 yard line...
     
  18. Fyreball

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    No way they ever let this happen due to the potential risk of injury from having an unchecked defender on the field at all times. Also, it's not like you're trying to completely stack the deck against the offense....you're just trying to make it a little less automatic.
     
  19. Nick

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    I'd still favor the rule of making all TD's 7 points, and if they go for 2 and miss, they only get 6 points. Most teams will end up taking the 7, and if they don't and want to go for two, it will be just like it is now.

    That provides the least disruption to the game, and really doesn't change the decision making very much (since XP's are an automatic now).

    Making a 43 yard extra point kick worth only 1 point, when during the game a 30 yard FG would be worth 3 points, just seems odd. Also, I could see most teams going for 2 as their success rate for a 50% greater return would be worth the risk for bypassing 43 yard kicks which convert at an 83% rate. This WOULD drastically change the game, and the decision making, with every single TD.
     
  20. A_3PO

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    Now they really have my attention. This is something I could support as there is no gimmick involved.

    They also should consider making the 2-point conversion a little more difficult, perhaps at the 5 yard-line.

    I like the idea of making the conversion after touchdown a legit, strategic decision where not all teams do the same thing.
     

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