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Nene to re-sign

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Sep 3, 2019.

  1. Vivi

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    Sucks. Not that i didn't expect this outcome at this point, but still...
     
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  2. lionaire

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    Morey just got cu*ked
     
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  3. jacoby

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    And if he was traded and didn't receive those bonuses, would the cap hit still be $10m or $2.5m (or whatever the base salary is)?
     
  4. JW86

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    LOL of course the league mess with us again!
     
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    And, the beat goes on.

    The NBA League office, whether it be on the court or off, continues to bend us over. Yet another item for that disgusting laundry list. They've already gone to the most extraordinary lengths against the Warriors, LIVE. So, this shouldn't come as any surprise. Nevertheless. a sad commentary on the state of the the NBA.(pro sports in general)

    DM did his job so well that the powers that be felt like they had no choice but to do this. Anything to protect the narrative.

    Sucks as a Rockets fan, but, again..the bald faced hypocrisy.....manipulation on a grand scale..beyond caring how it appears.
     
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    Isn't this the second time that a Nene/Rockets contract is somehow impacted by the League Office interfering?
     
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    Did Morey really think he could get away with something like that? I’m not surprised at all.

    at least he tried I guess
     
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    The NBA now wants LAK to win the “chip”, so they are gonna do all they can on their end
     
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  10. amaru

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    Yep
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Sue. Sue their asses Tilman
     
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  12. amaru

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    So where do the Rockets go from here?
     
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    Report: NBA won’t allow Rockets to use Nene’s contract as $10M trade chip

    By Dan FeldmanSep 19, 2019, 4:00 PM EDT



    This is a huge blow to Houston. The Rockets are now stuck with an over-the-hill center they can’t trade for value and can’t play much without triggering bonuses that’ll make him way overpaid.

    If they had known how this would turn out, they would’ve signed Nene to a one-year minimum contract at most. At least that’d be partially subsidized by the league. Because this is is a two-year deal, Houston is on the hook for the full base salary.


    The Rockets got a valuable trade chip with Nene’s contract.

    At least if the deal goes through.

    Bobby Marks of ESPN:

    "Although Nene signed with the Houston Rockets on Sept. 6, the NBA has yet to officially approve the deal. The 10-day delay is a result of the NBA discussing internally whether it should disapprove details in the contract, according to multiple sources".

    Nene’s contract includes a low base salary with a massive amount of likely incentives. Houston could count Nene’s full $10 million salary (base plus likely incentives) in a trade. The acquiring team would then owe Nene his base salary plus only the bonuses he actually triggers.

    It’s a workaround to the typical salary-matching rules.

    The bonuses are tied to individual games played and team games won. Because Nene played 42 games for the 53-win Rockets last season, the bonuses are qualified as likely. Last year’s performance is the default way to determine whether incentives are likely or unlikely.

    You can read more about the contract’s structure here.

    The NBA’s apprehension is interesting. The Collective Bargaining Agreement specifies a procedure for challenging incentive classification when the league or union believes the prior season is not a fair predictor. Essentially, that side makes a case to an arbiter that the default assumption is “very likely” to be wrong.

    However, in a funny quirk here, that challenge system lays out only how the NBA can challenge to turn unlikely incentives into likely incentives and how the union can challenge to turn likely incentives into unlikely incentives. There’s nothing about the NBA turning likely incentives into unlikely incentives, which the league is apparently considering here (and would make Nene’s contract invalid, as there’s a limit on unlikely incentives).

    The CBA also prohibits circumventing the spirit of the rules. The league could rule Houston did that here. However, that’s a tough case considering not only does Nene’s contract meet all stated technicalities, there’s a section specifically on challenging these types of details. It just doesn’t apply.

    The Heat opened the door for likely/unlikely-incentive shenanigans a couple years ago. We didn’t hear then about the NBA challenging those contracts, and that’s where the official challenge system would’ve applied.

    It seems unfair to punish the Rockets’ creativity now.

    https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/09/1...kets-to-use-nenes-contract-as-10m-trade-chip/
     
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    morey should just tweet that word for word
     
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    in the end harden and the fans will be punished. because now once again morey will be ordered to salary dump some contracts this season, dangling whatever picks are left plus our discretionary cash to get enough below the taxline in case capela makes some of his incentives
     
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  16. Vivi

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    They stay where they're i guess.
    "We like our team." ;)
    ...but i think they could still look to make a trade for a guy making around 10M by moving Nene, House and one or two salary fillers if there's going to be a chance, the problem is they're going to be way more limited in the number of players they can target, which sucks obviously, but hey, they gave away Anderson and Knight so, yeah.
     
  17. amaru

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    I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think they can even play Nene much now without having to pay some of those incentives.
     
  18. Vivi

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    Yeah but i think they didn't have any intention to play him much from the start anyway, Chandler and Hartenstein are probably going to play both more than Nene at this point.
     
  19. Clips/Roxfan

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  20. amaru

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    Lol yep just say this one Twitter. If true, the NBA punished Morey by structuring their ruling in such a way as to place the team in the LT.
     
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