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NBA trade rumors: Knicks keeping Carmelo Anthony over taking Rockets offer?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jayfree, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. RudyTBag

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    Bobby Brown will take care of that.
     
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    To be honest, while I'd love to have Melo, the rumored asking price is making me wonder whether replacing Anderson with Melo, as a net package, has more value to Alexander (in terms of increasing the prestige and sale price of the team) than it has on the court, in terms of making the Rockets a truly more effective squad.

    Daryl, if you're taking a pass on the Knicks' terms because you're protecting the team and the fans, not the sale price: We've got your back.
     
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    Capela against a true center in Adams of OKC he averaged 22 minutes a game, 7 points a game and less than 7 rebounds. He blocked 2.6 shots.

    Capela faired better against Lamarcus, Pau and David Lee. 29 minutes, 13 points, 10.5 boards, and 2.5 blocks. Their respective ages are 32, 37, 34. While they can all play center, their best years were at power forward. Capela was playing against three over the hill power forwards. That's my case. Capela is a power forward, not a center.

    You go to war with the army you have.
     
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    We would be a lot closer with him then now
     
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    You're funny. Keep going.
     
  6. flusched

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    His trades always trade the future for a now that always comes up short. If the Rockets ever win a title while Morey is the GM it will be in spite of his efforts instead of because of them. His moneyball is bullshit.

    Houston has never drafted well in its whole history. Statistically only 3 out of the 60 draft selections each year are the best player taken compared with who is still available. That means that on average a team should take the best available player once every ten years. Houston has never taken the best available player ever. They took Hakeem instead of Jordan. They took McCray instead of Clyde Drexler even though Drexler was Hakeem's running mate and hometown boy.

    I dare you to find any Houston draft pick whose career was better than all of the players that he was chosen before.
     
  7. Realjad

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    nonsense dude, he is not a power-forward he is a center. Every tangible he brings goes to the center role.

    He would make for a terrible power-forward in the modern NBA where power-forwards try to draw their man out on offense.

    When he is on the court he doesn't coast and if at 23 all he can muster is close to 25 min/g then thats fine because that number is improving and when he goes out he gives 100% effort. A lot of the things he does doesn't show up on that stat line, he completely changes how the opponents defend. He is the perfect complement to Harden and Paul, because you pretty much can't rotate off of him with their passing ability.. Capella is too quick, too explosive as a finisher that Harden and Pauls passing ability will make them pay.. so that threat leads to their easy buckets... stay at bay or pay..

    I def advise you to go rewatch the playoffs last year because he frustrated every player he was assigned to defend. Battier like, he wasn't pulling charges, but he was doing so much that didn't appear on the stat sheet. Hands straight up, not many stupid fouls. No one got an easy bucket on him, so many times when the opponent tried to go low post they had to push the ball back out and restart their offense.. that is a game changer, so essentially he is a game changing player.. you don't give those up when they have game changing abilities at 23. He can rebound well, however not many centers box out for others to rebound, he has the awareness to do that and it doesn't show on the stat line.

    He is a player built for a fast offense. Most big men want to post up, they want those inner passes that slow the game and we have had enough of those types of 'centers' to know how difficult it is for modern players to make that inside pass to them. Capela loves to do what I love my center to do offensively.. pick and rolls.. Weak-side blocks.. very low demand.. clean up.. lob finisher.
     
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    @flusched looking like a total jackass. Capela is a PF? Lol wow. Just because he isn't Steven Adams size doesn't mean he isn't a center. Capela is the epitome of a center. Do you even basketball?

    And your Morey rant. Lulzzzzzzz.
     
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    False. Pau's championship years were at C, and in today's NBA, he is MOST CERTAINLY a C. His two championships were as a starting C, fact. While Bynum was busy injured or sitting on the bench in the playoffs, Pau and Lamar Odom were killing teams. Look it up.

    Clint Capela is in no way, shape or form a Forward. Trevor Ariza is closer to being a PF than Clint is. Clint is a guy that will lead your team in rebounds, blocks and dunks. What does that sound like? He is 6-11 and rumored to be up around 260 lbs right now. He is 23 years old. He is not a forward, he is a young C, period.

    A PF must also be able to play the SF in today's NBA, so you are essentially saying that Clint is a wing. False.

    Clint runs the slot. He runs from rim to rim every single possession better than just about every C in the NBA. It is key to the Rocket's Offense and the primary role of a C in today's NBA. Run the pipe, finish the pick and roll, and lead the team in blocks and rebounds. Check, check, check and check. CENTER.
     
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    That's a gawdamn C If I ever saw one. Look at that filthy Congolesed animal...
     
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    Fantasy sports is popular because everyone knows that owners, GM's, and coaches are just fans. They rationalize their decisions just like all fans do. Expertise? Enlightened? Please.

    Morey has been GM for 10 years. When he took over Houston needed bigs. It still needs bigs.

    Dwight Howard, Motiejunas, Marcus Morris, Terrence Jones, Asik, Scola, Patterson. Dalembert

    Morey released Covington to make room for Josh Smith. Whoopy do. We had Alan Williams and dropped him for nothing. He just signed with Phoenix for 6 million a year. Williams has shown more promise that Capela. Wait and see who is around the longest.

    Moreyball is bullshit. He's a fan like anyone else. He just found a buyer for his bullshit.
     
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    Anyone who thinks that Capela is a PF should not have their basketball analysis/opinion taken seriously, I'm sorry.
     
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    This.... and if he should be tell us another team that's elite who has a pf like capela
     
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    Alan Williams? The guy coming off the bench on what might quite literally be the worst team in the NBA, just ahead of the Brooklyn Nets?

    Maybe in a halfcourt game, but this is the NBA. Alan Williams runs/defends the pick and roll like Clint Capela in his wettest of dreams. He also doesn't run the pipe like Clinty Boy, either. Get out of the 80's Flock of Seagulls.
     
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    Strong is the force on this one.
     
  17. Carl Herrera

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    The reason for Capela's increased minutes is that Nene got injured. Has nothing to do with PF or C, a meaningless distinction. Pau and Aldridge are very much center-sized.
     
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    What is bullshit, with all due respect, would be you claiming that the Rockets blew it picking Olajuwon instead of Jordan. Dream was easily considered the best player in the draft. You saying the Rockets blew the pick is based purely on hindsight. Nostradamus wasn't a GM in that draft.

    I would have picked Dream regardless, but that's personal bias. No one that I can recall thought drafting Olajuwon #1 was a mistake. If anything, GM's were livid that Houston got Dream after drafting Sampson the year before. That led to the lottery. You might want to consider brushing up on your NBA history.
     
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    I promise you the melo pursuit has absolutely nothing to do with trying to enhance the sale price. That's ridiculous.

    Morey believes melo gives the team a significant upgrade and is the only way we can compete for a title this year.
     
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    You're making my point. That's what I said. It's always hindsight. No one thought taking Olajuwon before Jordan was a mistake. I didn't either, but history shows that it was. And history shows that Houston has never taken the best player available--ever. It's just an observation that anyone could have done just as well as the Rockets experts.
     

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