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[MSNBC] ‘Stoned slackers’ watch Jon Stewart?

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  1. GladiatoRowdy

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    ‘Stoned slackers’ watch Jon Stewart?
    Bill O’Reilly's viewers are actually less educated than Stewart'sThe Associated Press
    Updated: 1:45 p.m. ET Sept. 28, 2004NEW YORK - The folks at Comedy Central were annoyed when Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly kept referring to “The Daily Show” audience as “stoned slackers.”

    So they did a little research. And guess whose audience is more educated?

    Viewers of Jon Stewart’s show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch “The O’Reilly Factor,” according to Nielsen Media Research.

    O’Reilly’s teasing came when Stewart appeared on his show earlier this month.

    “You know what’s really frightening?” O’Reilly said. “You actually have an influence on this presidential election. That is scary, but it’s true. You’ve got stoned slackers watching your dopey show every night and they can vote.”

    Comedy Central executives realized, and O’Reilly acknowledged, that he was poking fun. But they said they didn’t want a misconception to persist.

    “If the head of General Motors was watching O’Reilly’s show, that could be very important to us,” said Doug Herzog, Comedy Central president.

    “If you listen to O’Reilly, you get the sense that it was crazy longhairs behind the show,” he said. “And it’s not. It’s great, smart television that attracts a well-compensated audience, most of whom are voting age.”

    No sense of humor at Comedy Central?
    Relax, said Fox News Channel spokesman Rob Zimmerman.

    ‘Who is more undecided than stoned slackers? Ice cream or pretzels? Ice cream or pretzels? What’s it going to be?’

    “Comedy Central must have lost their sense of humor,” Zimmerman said. “Without Jon Stewart, Comedy Central would turn into the Great American Country Channel.”

    Comedy Central also touted a recent study by the University of Pennsylvania’s National Annenberg Election Survey, which said young viewers of “The Daily Show” were more likely to answer questions about politics correctly than those who don’t.

    Comedy Central had no statistics on how many people watch “The Daily Show” stoned.

    Although seemingly taken aback by repeated “stoned slackers” references while talking with O’Reilly, Stewart was ready with a joke.

    “This election is going to rely on the undecided,” he said. “And who is more undecided than stoned slackers? Ice cream or pretzels? Ice cream or pretzels? What’s it going to be?”

    Whether it’s the slacker or no-slacker zone, O’Reilly is entering it Oct. 7, when he’s scheduled to appear on “The Daily Show.”

    So if Stewart’s audience is comprised of stoned slackers, how would Herzog describe O’Reilly’s audience?

    “I’m not getting into that game,” he said.

    © 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    OReilly is an ignorant, self-promoting, blowhard with a MASSIVE forehead. He should have never left A Current Affair. I can't believe people actually give a sweet rats ass what he has to say about anything because I sure don't....and I'm a conservative.
     
  4. GladiatoRowdy

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    Very well said.
     
  5. No Worries

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    I agree but I always like to see OReilly and Al Franken go after it :)
     
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    I'm convinced that those two boobs are actually friends and are just using eachother to sell books. Kind of like Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. AntiSonic

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    Stewart got the best of O'Reilly in that interview. Bill did not bring his A game.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    I don't think so, but I definitely think they are two sides of the same coin.

    I do give Franken props for his accuracy in the face of lies, though. His book, though obviously partisan, was extensively documented and apparently well researched by his crack team of Harvard undergrads.

    O'Reilly, OTOH, tends to just make $hit up when he feels the need.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Does anyone have the audio?
     
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    'Daily Show' viewers ace political quiz

    Survey reveals late-night TV viewers better informed

    By Bryan Long
    CNN
    Wednesday, September 29, 2004

    (CNN) -- So, three guys are watching TV.

    One turns on Jay Leno. One tunes into David Letterman. And the other watches Jon Stewart.

    Who's better informed politically?

    In a recent survey, viewers of Stewart's "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central tested better than Letterman and Leno viewers on a six-question politics quiz.

    Viewers of all three shows know more about the background of presidential candidates and their positions on issues than people who don't watch late-night TV.

    On top of that, "Daily Show" viewers know more about election issues than people who regularly read newspapers or watch television news, according to the National Annenberg Election Survey. (Pop quiz)

    Dannagal Goldthwaite Young, a senior research analyst at the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said "Daily Show" viewers came out on top "even when education, party identification, following politics, watching cable news, receiving campaign information online, age and gender are taken into consideration."

    The quiz was given to 19,013 adults between July 15 and September 19.

    The quiz included these questions:

    "Who favors allowing workers to invest some of their Social Security contributions in the stock market?" Answer: Bush.

    "Who urges Congress to extend the federal law banning assault weapons?" Answer: Kerry.

    While viewers of NBC's "The Tonight Show" and CBS' "The Late Show" scored better than the general public, Stewart's fans came out on top.

    Forty-nine percent of Leno and Letterman viewers got a perfect score on the quiz.

    But 60 percent of "Daily Show" viewers answered all six questions correctly.

    Just 42 percent of those who read a newspaper four days a week aced the test. Only 40 percent of those who watch network news four days a week got every answer right.

    Comedy Central was waiting for news like this. On September 17, Stewart appeared on Bill O'Reilly's "The O'Reilly Factor" only to be told his viewers are "stoned slackers" and "dopey kids."

    "You know what's really frightening?" O'Reilly asked Stewart. " You actually have an influence on this presidential election. That is scary, but it's true."

    Comedy Central used its viewers' test scores Tuesday to strike back at Fox News Channel and O'Reilly's viewers.

    It also trotted out stats from Nelson Media Research to show that Stewart's viewers are not only smart, but more educated than O'Reilly's.

    "Daily Show" viewers are 78 percent more likely than the average adult to have four or more years of college education, while O'Reilly's audience is only 24 percent more likely to have that much schooling.

    Plus, the network noted, "Daily Show" viewers are 26 percent more likely to have a household income more than $100,000, while O'Reilly's audience is only 11 percent more likely to make that much money.

    So the guy watching Stewart may not only be smart, but may also be rich.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/28/comedy.politics/index.html
     
  11. Refman

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    Everybody here knows that I am a conservative. I want just as many people to know that I think that Bill O'Reilly is the biggest bag of hot air this side of the Hindenberg. He rails on everything. He calls just about everything a dopey show.

    If he were half as smart as he thinks he is, perhaps all dread diseases would have cures caused by his all knowing power.

    What a jackass.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    Stewart was slamming O'Reilly's intro to his interview with Bush last night. O'Reilly was praising the president for going into an interview without the answers in advance. O'Reilly: "That's impressive." Stewart: "No, that's the least you can do and still have an interview. Otherwise its scripted..."

    Then he started bashing Kerry for his "thrilling" and "clear" interview with Diane Sawyer.

    Anyway, that show is great.
     
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    Did they test if they were stoned?
     
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    http://www.nynewsday.com/other/special/amny/

    ;)
     
  15. Harrisment

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    I know, I'd really love to hear this.
     
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    Copyright 2004 Fox News Network, LLC

    Fox News Network

    SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR (20:37)

    September 17, 2004 Friday

    Transcript # 091705cb.256

    SECTION: News: Domestic

    LENGTH: 1658 words

    HEADLINE: Personal Story

    O'Reilly Discusses "The Daily Show"

    GUESTS: Jon Stewart, "The Daily Show"

    BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly

    BODY:

    O'REILLY: Thanks for staying with us. I'm Bill O'Reilly. In the "Personal Story" segment tonight, he is the darling of the television critics, the host of "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central, and now has a book called "America: A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction" -- 'inaction,' one word. Welcome, Jon Stewart, to the no spin zone, everyone.

    JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW": How are you, sir?

    O'REILLY: OK. You know what's really frightening?

    STEWART: Uh oh.

    O'REILLY: You know what's really frightening?

    STEWART: You've been reading my diary.

    O'REILLY: You actually have an influence on this presidential election. That is scary.

    STEWART: If that were so, that would be quite frightening.

    O'REILLY: But it is. It's true. I mean, you've got stoned slackers watching your dopey show every night, OK, and they can vote.

    STEWART: Yeah.

    O'REILLY: You can't stop them.

    STEWART: Yeah, I just don't know how motivated they would be, these stoned slackers.

    O'REILLY: Yeah, it just depends if they have to go out that day.

    STEWART: What am I, a Cheech and Chong movie? Stoned slackers?

    O'REILLY: Come on, you do the research, you know the research on your program.

    STEWART: No, we don't.

    O'REILLY: Eighty-seven percent are intoxicated when they watch it. You didn't see that?

    STEWART: No, I didn't realize that.

    O'REILLY: Yeah, we have that there.

    STEWART: We come on right after, I believe, puppets that make crank calls...

    O'REILLY: Yeah.

    STEWART: ... so we are, I think, the appropriate follow up...

    O'REILLY: Yeah, and that's a great lead-in for you.

    STEWART: It's a wonderful show, by the way.

    O'REILLY: Puppets can't vote, but these dopey kids who watch you can.

    STEWART: They actually can -- in Florida, they can.

    O'REILLY: Puppets can vote in Florida.

    STEWART: As long as they vote Republican.

    O'REILLY: And they haven't committed a felony.

    STEWART: And they haven't committed a felony, that's exactly right.

    O'REILLY: But you do have some influence. Now, how do you see that? You have influence. John Kerry bypassed me and went right over to you. You're only four blocks away. He said, "O'Reilly, I don't think so. Stewart, I'm going to go talk to you."

    STEWART: Well, I have to tell you -- and again, I mean no disrespect, but the snack selection backstage, quite frankly...

    O'REILLY: Yeah, it's...

    (CROSSTALK)

    STEWART: You know, I don't want to shake Guantanamo Bay, but it's a little sparer back there.

    O'REILLY: It's close, it's close. We want people to be hungry when they come out.

    STEWART: I think that's wise. We have, what I like to call, snack- size Three Musketeers, some Snickers, some Milky Ways. If I were a presidential candidate and I had to choose, I think a place that had an energy pick-me-up might be the place I would go.

    O'REILLY: Do you think that Kerry does himself any good talking to you? Because I think most of your audience is going to vote for him anyway, aren't they?

    STEWART: If I thought...

    O'REILLY: The stoned slackers.

    STEWART: If I thought honestly that their strategy hinged upon his coming and talking to me, I would suggest that they were in some deep trouble. I don't know. I feel like, you know, we don't have an agenda of influence. If we have influence, it is peripheral. And I don't imagine that people who watch the show are watching it to make up their minds in terms of who they think would best prosecute the war on terror. I think they watch to see who would maybe have the best jokes on the war on terror.

    O'REILLY: No, here's what I think. I've been on the show a couple of times. I mean, you obviously make fun of everybody. You know, I'm making fun of your show now. But you get everybody.

    STEWART: We are, in fact, crass and immature.

    O'REILLY: But you are a show that your target audience is younger, left leaning, so you have to play to the choir sometimes.

    STEWART: But the real estate is younger, just because it's Comedy Central.

    O'REILLY: And it's at 11 o'clock at night.

    STEWART: I don't know if it's left leaning. I mean, would you suggest that -- you know that blue collar TV show that does all the -- like Foxworthy and all that? You'd consider that a red state show -- you know, Foxworthy and -- (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

    O'REILLY: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    STEWART: OK. They're our lead-in on Monday nights, and there's really no difference between...

    O'REILLY: But even so, younger people tend to be a little bit more, you know...

    STEWART: When you say younger, are you talking 9, 10? What are you talking here?

    O'REILLY: No, I'm talking 18 to 25, you know. The people who are on your intellectual level.

    STEWART: Thank you.

    O'REILLY: They seek that.

    STEWART: Yes.

    (CROSSTALK)

    O'REILLY: You ask some serious questions too.

    STEWART: Very rarely. Every now and again.

    O'REILLY: Well, you asked me why I was such a bad person, didn't you, or something like that? Wasn't that a serious question?

    STEWART: Did I ask you why you were a bad person?

    O'REILLY: Yeah, I think so.

    STEWART: No, I wouldn't have done that.

    O'REILLY: ... "scum of the earth, O'Reilly," I think that's the way you put it.

    STEWART: No, I wouldn't have put it that way. I think it would have been, why do you have such je ne sai qua?

    O'REILLY: Yeah, some French. We're boycotting France, so I couldn't answer...

    STEWART: By the way, I couldn't agree with you more about the French thing. They are such an important country, and I think really deserve a boycott.

    O'REILLY: Yeah, they do.

    STEWART: Because of the influence they wield in the world.

    (CROSSTALK)

    O'REILLY: Well, you know, I know you don't agree with...

    STEWART: They have a variety of cheeses, and...

    O'REILLY: I was just going to say, you have to have your brie before you go on.

    STEWART: Do you really believe France is, in any way, worthy of a boycott?

    O'REILLY: I do. I think France has really hurt the USA, to be...

    STEWART: Really?

    O'REILLY: Yes, I do.

    STEWART: More than like Saudi Arabia? You would advocate a boycott...

    O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to say more than Saudi Arabia. But I'm saying we do a lot...

    STEWART: So why not boycott them?

    O'REILLY: France is supposed to be our friend. Saudi Arabia is...

    STEWART: Since when?

    (CROSSTALK)

    STEWART: Since the revolution they haven't been our friend.

    O'REILLY: OK, when you get a guy like Kerry on...

    STEWART: Yes.

    O'REILLY: ... and again, he bypassed me, so I took it personally, he went over to talk to you...

    STEWART: But you and I are not competitors, let's be frank about it.

    O'REILLY: Well, we're on our second rerun on THE FACTOR -- is now at 11 o'clock.

    STEWART: I don't mean in terms of -- we're not competitors in terms of content. You're a news show, and we are a comedy show.

    O'REILLY: That's true. But what do you want the audience to get out of your discussion with Kerry? Just yucks, or anything else?

    STEWART: First of all, I shall rarely refer to it as yucks, and I think you should reconsider.

    O'REILLY: OK, I'm sorry about that arcane term.

    STEWART: "Shnicks," we call it shnicks -- shnicks and giggles.

    O'REILLY: Thank you.

    STEWART: All right. I am very uncomfortable going more than a couple of minutes without a laugh, because the same weakness that drove me into comedy also informs my show. So that same, what we call, neediness, neuroses...

    O'REILLY: If you're not hearing the audience laugh, you're getting a little nervous.

    STEWART: That would be exactly correct, because it is, at heart, a comedy show. But it's a comedy show about things we care about. So naturally, it's informed by relevant issues and important information.

    O'REILLY: What do you think Kerry wants to get out of coming on your show?

    STEWART: He wants to get what any politician does: access to a new constituency. He wants to get...

    O'REILLY: The stoned slackers.

    STEWART: ... that's exactly right, because the stoned slackers, this election is going to rely on the undecided. Who is more undecided than...

    O'REILLY: Than the stoned slacker, right.

    STEWART: ... the people who are high. Right now, they're thinking to themselves, ice cream or pretzels, ice cream or pretzels.

    O'REILLY: Don't you think that these guys want to be hip, when McCain was on with you -- Bush hasn't been on with you, right? You would remember that...

    STEWART: George Bush?

    O'REILLY: Yeah.

    STEWART: I don't recall the president stopping by the program.

    O'REILLY: But McCain's been on.

    STEWART: Yes.

    O'REILLY: OK. Kerry's been on, as we mentioned.

    STEWART: Yes.

    O'REILLY: I've been on. So you've had the three most powerful people beside him on.

    STEWART: That's probably right.

    O'REILLY: What do you think Kerry wanted to get out of it?

    STEWART: A hug -- just a sweet hug. I'm sure what he wants out of it is, again, that access -- it's the same thing that Budweiser wants out of it. It's the same thing that Dell computers...

    (CROSSTALK)

    STEWART: No, it's access to this market that may be untapped, an untapped potential, a reserve, an ANWAR, if you will. He wants to drill in an area that has previously been un-drilled. And don't make a dirty remark about that, because I see it coming.

    O'REILLY: All right, your book is...

    STEWART: But what do you think he wants out of it?

    O'REILLY: I think he wants to be hip. I do. I think going on your show is a cache, and he's considered the hipper candidate than the square.

    STEWART: So you think he's not looking for votes. This is middle- aged crisis?

    O'REILLY: No...

    STEWART: This is a mid-life crisis...

    O'REILLY: No, he just wants to get that tag...

    STEWART: ... buying a Corvette.

    O'REILLY: ... that he's with it, that's all. And he probably wants to get hair tips from you. Look at that hair. It's great. All right, Jon Stewart, buy his book, here he is. And I'll see you on your show in a couple of weeks.

    STEWART: You will see me on my show.

    O'REILLY: Right back with Dan Rather -- how can you not watch it -- in a moment.
     
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    He really is an egotist, isn't he? Does he really think he has as much power as DeLay or even Limbaugh?

    He also hammered the "stoned slackers" comment into the ground. I didn't even START watching TDS until a year ago, LONG after I stopped being a "stoned slacker." I would be happy to match wits and debating skills with O'Reilly's viewers.
     
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    :rolleyes:


    Euthanasia does have its benefits...
     
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    he's criticizing Kerry for being on TDS but he himself has been on twice and is scheduled to appear a 3rd time?
     
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    Jon Kerry has to be loving this. His ratings on the 7th are going to be way up there.
     

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