Satisfaction? It’s nothing remotely close to that. The guy was clearly not a nut case and he was backing points of view that are not too far outside of the mainstream to be honest.
They wanna be heard. When the media publishes their manifestos they encourage the next guy This a legitimate criticism that comes up when this happens
Is a soldier that wipes out a wedding party with the push of a button mentally ill? Is an executioner flipping the switch on dozens of inmates a year mentally ill? What about a gang member who shoots up an apartment building from his car window? Or some Islamic extremist blowing himself up in a hotel lobby? People are trained and conditioned to commit these acts. Automatically brushing these actions off as those of someone with a screw loose is lazy and dangerous. Of course it does if there are millions of others believing the same things. Does radical Islam matter?
And previously, in response to the Pittsburgh synagogue attack... https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-muslims-raise-over-100000-for-synagogue-victims/
The politicians, writers, tv and radio hosts who share his view points also need to be confronted. That is why you can’t simply ignore what the terrorist wrote. He took extreme actions but his philosophies were not uncommon ideas. To be put it bluntly there is almost no way that you can convince me that it is bad to understand what he wrote because he was right on the edge of being mainstream with his views.
To add on 1.5 million Muslims could be detained in China's Xinjiang https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ned-in-chinas-xinjiang-academic-idUSKCN1QU2MQ
Whenever one of the shootings happen, you can post how religion is just another dividing factor. That if somebody was hating someone for being brown, you would have a united front amongst black people, Hispanics, and other minority races which is not something haters want. It’s much easier when you can divide them and make them weaker so you can take all your anger out from your unsuccessful life on them.
Understanding what he wrote is different than glorifying it and I think that point gets lost sometimes. I have read the Unabomber Manifesto from back in the mid 90's several times..... and I can understand what he is saying (and some of it has happened), but it doesn't change the fact that reading what his philosophy only made me realize just how wrong his actions were. Same with the Turner Diaries, I have read them and if anything, it only pointed out how poorly educated and stupid the White Nationalist Movement is.... I've read Mein Kampf as well.
Well....... that deserves another thread, China is a disgusting monster that really needs to be reigned in by the rest of the world.... but I digress.
Honestly, until they take away semi automatic weapons, I don’t see any other solution than just dropping religion altogether Also, if you have kids then I would not send them to public school in a state where guns are legal
Thank you durvasa, for being a voice of reason. ChrisBosh is off his rocker for blaming Sam Harris for this. Criticizing an ideology is one thing - and Sam Harris is of course both completely right and in his right to do so. Advocating or encouraging murder is something completely different, and he has clearly not done that. By that logic, anyone who criticizes dangerous elements of political Islam condones this horrific attack or encouraged it? What kind of messed up logic is that? This Australian senator is a d******d as well. What he is saying is awful and disrespectful - shortly after almost 50 Muslims has been murdered, he blames...Muslims and immigration? wtf To me, Nazis like the terrorist who did this and Islamists (and other religious extremists) who murder people are actually very, very similar ideologically. Each of them thinks their ideology somehow justifies murder of innocent people. Both is fascist fanatism. Anyone who murders someone else because of a fanatical belief in an ideology is a terrorist. I just wish people wouldn't use horrible events like this to score political points.
That would make a great thread, I think, fwiw. Both just for philosophical discussion...but also because it's a very real, relevant question.
So people fighting for freedom of their nation are terrorists? Sounds very Metternich ian. If they can win then they can be later heroes but otherwise we can out here label them all as terrorists.
What im saying is that if this guy didn't hate Muslims it would be something else. As far as your radical Islam question, these guys arent part of large terrorist groups. Different subject
His maifesto doesn't need to be published for whom you want to be confronted to be confronted Its just hate and a disturbed mind. Its not complicated
