ahhhh...i stand corrected. i think i get labelled a bit as being a morey hater here...so i suppose i was projecting myself too much in this discussion. because i don't want him fired now.
Im referring to the poll from 2 or 3 days ago asking whether or not you have confidence in Morey (which I took to understand as asking whether or not you want Morey fired). That poll had more votes for no confidence in him than votes of confidence. I took that to mean that there is pretty strong support for getting rid of Morey immediately and that group is who I directed my comments towards. I hope, though, that you are right and there aren't as many people calling for his head as I percieve.
Yeah, just a little miscommunication I suppose. Ive got no problems with any of your arguements in this thread, they're legit and logical. I was speaking more to the over-the-top haters on the board.
i think there's a ton of vitriol right now because of emotion about the adelman decision. having said that, i have zero interest in seeing morey fired at this point and i was surprised to see that poll.
I agree. The Rockets have to make progress. The same things that have held back Morey , held back JVG and Adelman These last two years Adelman did alot with a little. Adelman accomplished alot too . . hell Yao goes down and the Rockets still push the Lakers to the brink! but that means NOTHING for Adelman Morey has become the teflon Don. He is beyond reproach. He cannot be criticized. He has done some good things but this is HIS TIME NOW. Make it or break it time. I don't think anyone wants him fired. Well no one practical but we definately want to see progress. If the next coach has no playoffs in the next 3 yrs will we blame the coach then too . .and say well . that was just 1 Morey dud? Rocket River
I think this goes without saying. The Rockets are making progress. We're getting younger and we don't have a bad contract besides Miller, which is practically an expiring contract. Thabeet's contract is also an expiring. Assets I've mentioned this before but the best thing DM did was not take on a stupid contract like Gerald Wallace's. Yes it would have helped us this upcoming season in making the playoffs but doesn't help us in the long run. Dwight Howard. Chris Paul or Deron Williams. DM sees the bigger picture. Adelman wasn't on board with the potential dump of Scola.
I meant that he OBVIOUSLY wouldn't be blameless if we don't make the playoffs 5 straight years. That's not happening though.
No worries. It's hard to say this but we have to remain patient. The role players are there. We're missing the superstar and who knows if we might get in position to get even 2 by next summer.
likely will have to give up the role players to get the superstar....and then spend time acquiring the right role players to complement him.
That's what DM is good at. He did it once but the max players couldn't hold up their end of the bargain.
There is no time frame for Morey. I believe he is a great GM. We should just keep him for at least the next 10-20 years and hope he can build us a great team. He is doing things right, all we need is luck.
DM has shown the ability to find diamonds in the rough. His main question now is. . .can he land the BIG FISH? CD landed some pretty big fish. [TMAC, Barkley, Francis, Pippen, etc] His issue may have been about not finding the Role Players [he over payed the role players I guess] Morey is able to find the diamonds in the rough but has not shown the ability to land the big fish. He does not overpay but he has not landed the big fish I guess we need to see the CD MOREY Combo right about now Funny. CD may have been too loyal and Morey not enough. Rocket River
For those wanting to compare Hunsicker to Morey, it really isn't fair and comparing between sports is not a logical one BUT if you want to go there...Hunsicker lost his best pitcher Randy Johnson(FAgency), arguably best hitter Alou(Injury), manager for a long period of time Dierker(Injury) and STILL won 97 games and the NL Central title in 1999. END OF DISCUSSION.
Thats not the end of discussion at all and "thier success" is not even whats being compared. Whats being compared is how they were measured as successful, how thier tenure was handled and in the end if Astros ended up with a better product by getting rid of him. It is absolutely 100% relevant as the situations are nearly identical.
First task of Morey is to put team in position to tank. 8, 9 seeds not good enough? Ok, make us 15 so we have chance for 1 in future. No more false promise to trade for superstar one day! If we don’t have high draft pick or sign superstar free agent by next summer, Morey will stand on thin ice with me.
There's not that refined a metric for gauging GM success other than playoff success and player acquisitions. I guess you can ask: - How you said each of the past Rockets coaches was an improvement on the previous one - Is Morey an improvement over the previous GM? If CD were still GM, would the Rockets have the same success/worst success? - If Morey were hired at another franchise, lets say Cleveland ... would you believe Morey would have the ability to improve that franchise? Is Morey getting it done now just based on luck? - Would Morey be an upgrade/downgrade compared to the rest of the league? - So far, has Morey shown ability to RUIN the franchise? Right now is the TRUE read on Morey's ability. It seems Yao, McGrady, and Adelman, even as much as Yao and McGrady were injured they're more a security blanket for Morey's job than a detriment. Now, there's no more building AROUND something existing, its now creating BASED ON Morey's method.
