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Morey wants Dragic back - (Twitter)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TxCowboy96, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Well if the Market bares that then Morey can't justify paying it for a rebuilding team. He did say rebuilding.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Morey has to keep his better players or lose his job, and the fanbase bringing pitchforks and rioting.

    The Rockets are in the catbird seat here, Dragic likes Houston, he has earned the starting spot, and they can offer more guaranteed money than anyone else.

    If they TRULY want him, they will keep him, if they are just giving lip service, then the fans will realize what a sham they are running.

    DD
     
  3. moestavern19

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    Get whatever you can for Martin and Lowry, maybe even Scola. Try to get Dragic and Lee back. Dragic higher priority obviously.
     
  4. Luckkky

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    It's funny how some people are saying good bye lowry.. Wouldn't you want a solid backup as well? both of these guys can co exist!
     
  5. durvasa

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    I like Dragic, but I'll take Lowry at 6 million over Dragic at 13 million every time. If some team is crazy enough to offer that sort of money, the Rockets should make use of their cap room by addressing a more pressing need than PG.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    That is what losing teams do, settle for lessor players.

    DD
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lose his job? His job is dependent on getting a franchise player, not keeping a really good player. Goran is a well liked but all it takes is a slump or bad year for a player making > $10 million to go from fan favorite to Goat. Kevin Martin is a perfect example. By the way, what fan base?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Look at it this way, do you think people are complaining about DWill or CP3 making the money they are making?

    Do you think Morey would pay them? Or would he be the guy that is saying...well, we got Lowry for 6 mill....?????

    That is what losers do, they don't dare to be great, they settle for a little bit less to save a little money or flexibility.

    The Rockets need to go for the throat, gamble a bit, pay their better players, and start building.

    Dragic is better than Lowry today, and will be a LOT better than him in the future because he has better athleticism and skills, you don't SETTLE if you are truly trying to win.

    YOU KEEP YOUR BETTER PLAYERS - find a way to build with them....no matter what the cost.

    DD
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

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    DD, You are comparing Dragic to D-Will and CP3. It's an easy answer. Goran isn't nor will ever be better than them.

    Morey has said the best contracts in the NBA are rookie and star contracts.
     
  10. durvasa

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    Its not settling if you wisely use the money saved to bring in more talent and address the team's other issues.
     
  11. dobro1229

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    Good points Durv.

    One thing we do know about the front office and negotiations is they typically prefer restricted free agency because they can pay market by matching the offers made by other teams.

    The Rockets front office will probably say, based on your production vs. comparable PG production in the league vs. average salary of all three components you should be making X. Then wait and see what other teams like Portland offer to try and match Market rate.

    The main caveat is going to be what happens on draft day June 28th as far as trades and if they can move Kyle Lowry. The earliest they can sign Goran would be July 11th so alot of their pitch is going to rely on moving Lowry on draft day.

    If Lowry is still on the roster its going to be very difficult to pitch Dragic on being the starter going forward without some question marks from Dragic's camp. This is despite whether he should or shouldn't be the starter, Morey will have to stay politically correct to "you are going to have to earn the position, but I think you and Lowry can exist on the court together."
     
  12. DaDakota

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    Yes it is....because the Rockets saving money or getting other mediocre players with that money means we are still trending nowhere.

    You either are swinging for the fences, or you are playing for 2nd place.

    Morey needs more risk in his game, he is far too risk averse and it is costing this team dearly.

    DD
     
  13. DaDakota

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    If Morey offers more $$$ than anyone else, and he can....then Gogi will have a tough decision to make.

    DD
     
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    I know the guys that did the Ipad App. They had a few meetings with Morey and he was definitely in a good mood 2 weeks ago and really upset this week when we were eliminated from the playoffs.

    Big fan of Dragic but I still think Lowry is the better player. When healthy and playing like he was at the beginning of the year, there is no way we would lose that many games in a row especially when they counted.

    That being said if we can sign Dragic for the $9 million per year, both of them become great assets for trades especially because they both would have great value contracts. Assuming Dragic gets a reasonable market contract that is, and some other NBA team doesn't decide to overpay him.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    The overall point still stands, tweeting to him by the fans is meaningless, the ball is completely in Morey's court.

    If he wants him, he will pay him, if they don't pay him, then he was full of ****.

    DD
     
  16. durvasa

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    Then get players that are better than mediocre with that money.
     
  17. dobro1229

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    Exactly. I love Goran too, but he's not in that caliber of a PG. Even DD himself said a few days ago that Dragic is not the Rockets savior, but then he wants to pay him as if he was and cripple future moves going forward???

    On the basketball court we all saw how in the past two weeks teams have really learned how to stop Goran's penetration off the pick n roll. Its actually pretty easy to defend. He cant penetrate going right. This is a huge issue, and your seeing now whats going to happen if he's properly scouted for.

    The caliber of PG DWill/CP3/Nash are on a whole other level than Goran in their playmaking abilities. Maybe Goran can improve enough in the future to fix the holes in his game, but you cant pay someone on that caliber of a salary if he's not necessarily the answer to all your issues.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    We are not going to agree, and this reads like a bunch of Lowry guys hoping like hell that Dragic leaves so he gets his job back.

    The Rox should do everything in their power to keep Dragic...period !

    That is what teams that are building something do, teams that are happy to continue to feed fans lame excuses will let them walk and cite flexibility.

    I can guarantee flexibility never won anything.

    DD
     
  19. durvasa

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    So if at that stage Portland fans are campaigning hard to bring him over there, would you still say that its pointless for Rockets fans to try to convince him to stay by showing their appreciation?
     
  20. acshen

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    Completely irrational arguments by DD - we keep him regardless of cost? There is a point where the price becomes unreasonable. If the Market gives him 13/year we will be handcuffed for years on a perimeter player. Roster formation demands you spend more money on big men..
     

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