Morey usually fixes his mistakes, do you still want him as your GM?

There’s no CP3 in Houston without the max contract. It amazes me that people still not understand this.

I mean seriously, he helped us come within 1 half of going to the finals.....in his FIRST season with the team. I’d still do that deal 10 times out of 10.

How many other stars are knocking at the door wanting to play with Harden? Anxiously awaiting your answer.....

 

Are you telling me nobody wants to play with harden?

Yes, I would pay 44M for last years CP3. I would not pay 44M for a 36 year old washed up CP.

 

Despite appearances , Morey is probably the best GM in the business …. when owners put constraints on what you can spend , you have to get really creative and I think he's done that in spades. This is a really good team that would probably be favored to win a championship in any other period of time - cept for that team that broke the league.

Speaking of the team that broke the league , the rest of the league threw in the towel , Morey at least tried to beat them and came within a CP3 injury from doing just that.

My annoyance isn't directed at Morey - its the guy telling him he cant pay the luxury tax / repeater tax , pretty much tying his hands.

 

He has his faults but he is still way better than most, and I personally think he is great.

DD

 

I’m not an insider, I can’t tell you that nor will I pretend to know. But just looking at the last few years....KD, pass. LBJ, pass. Rockets weren’t on AD’s most recent list. Pretty clear to me that stars aren’t banging on our door to play with him, which is what I said.

And....You don’t get last years CP3 without the max contract for 36 year old CP3. There’s been plenty of rumblings here that he was promised max if he came to the Rockets. It was never going to be a one and done with him.

 

Wouldnt that have more to do with the city than Harden himself?

 

if ever u had a complaint or concern about Harden over the years - you got labeled a LOF... even if your account pre-dated Lin... smh...

and the funniest part was Harden has continued to improve every year... glad he didnt listen to all those nuthuggers who said 'there was no room for improvement' and 'to ask anything more of him is unreasonable' and 'his turnovers are totally acceptable due to his usage rate...' ..etc... lol

 

Lin was totally a Les signing... Les was always big on working those international markets,,,

and Morey's worst 'mistakes' were deals that didnt come to fruition...
How would a max deal for Bosh have affected us for years?
Trading for and paying Pau and Nene with their market value at that time...?

Morey's one of the best... but aint nobody perfekt... lol

 

but...but... he and Tilman "gutted a championship team" ...that was your quote wasnt it? That doesnt sound very 'great' to me... lol

 

Gotta admit! Moreys outside the box thinking is his greatest weakness and strength. He tried with MCW, Ennis, Chriss
And Knight, screwed the pooch, but then kind of made amends with Rivers, Faried, (House, kinda) and if he gets Morris to play stretch 4, he may have pulled a playoff roster out of thin air. Lets see where Morris decides to go first tho.

 

Could be. Did CP3 choose Houston over LA? I seriously doubt that, he’s the one that wanted to play with Harden.

Or do you think it may have something to do with FA’s deciding over playing with a ball dominant guard versus a team that shares the ball?

Look - I’m not on some anti-Harden kick here, I love the guy, always have. I’m just looking at the list of the biggest NBA free agents that we chased and didn’t land in the Harden era. We’ve landed one out of A LOT.

....Morey’s been chasing stars for some time now, and didn’t land one until last season. (Unless you count Ryan Anderson, which I don’t).

So yeah you could be onto something, maybe EVERY star free agent just dislikes Houston that much, and it has nothing to do with our style of play and star player. I suspect that’s not the case.

 

If Morey was given an opportunity to let the team bottom out just once when Les owned the team we'd probably have one championship...at the very least.

 

You're not on an anti-Harden kick? Well, good news: there are more than two possible reasons players don't join the Rockets!
1. LA and New York are big markets and those cities do have appeal. I hope you will agree. Other cities may have appeal for various reasons too, like Miami. . . .
2. Any given team can only give out so many max contracts. After you sign Harden and Paul, giving out mega contracts becomes difficult.
3. Agents have their own agendas.
4. Players like to go to the finals, so they are attracted to teams like the Warriors and Cavs (before).
5. Many top players want minutes. Point guards and shooting guards, at least, ought to know that they will definitely not be playing starters' minutes in Houston, and they will not be The Man.
6. Some players want to go play in their home town, like Melo did.
7. Players can't come here unless the Rockets invite them to come. Not sure the owner and Morey even invited every single superstar to play here.
Please feel free to add your own reasons. I just think it is wrong to say "Either players don't like Houston or they don't want to play with Harden." That is an oversimplification. Maybe we can go down the list of FA's one by one.

 

I mean I get that, but I really doubt its because people dont wanna play with Harden? Like you think its because no one wants to play with him, I think it has less to do with him but more about other reasons. If I were a betting man(and im not haha) and it was James Harden vs The Field of other reasons, I would take the field.

 

No, not an anti-Harden guy. Check my post history before you try to put me in that bucket.

Obviously there’s a multitude of reasons why FA’s choose where they play. I know It’s not black or white as you mention..

It was a tongue-in-cheek response to someone saying it could have something to do with FA’s not liking the city versus not wanting to play with James.

And I don’t disagree with your big market angle, but I think it’s a bit overblown. Let’s not act like there’s more money to be had in those markets. Sneaker deals/endorsements happen for star players in all markets in this day and age.

If you go back and read the conversation in this thread, my point was that people need to stop whining about CP3’s contract....he was always going to get the max here.

My other point was that he’s one of a few FA’s who actually chose to play here. I digressed in my tongue-in-cheek response, but nonetheless if you want to name star FA’s who declined Daryl’s attempts to sign them - we can go down that road......I guarantee that list is much longer than Dwight and CP3

 

I personally think it’s a combination of factors, not necessarily that nobody wants to play with him

In my mind, he makes the game easier for those around him....why wouldn’t you sign up for that?

I do find it curious that only a PR damaged Dwight and aging CP3 were the only 2 of the very many that we chased and landed. I get the LBJ/LA thing, and KD ring chasing....

I also find it curious that we are never on anyone’s approved trade-to list.

 

are we talking about the reigning 17-18 Executive of the Year? since he took over the rockets in 07, rockets have never had a losing season (15-16 was the worst at 41-41). he traded away post-injury tmac for kevin martin, then kevin martin for james harden. you can't put equal weight on every roster move, i'd much prefer he makes one huge move that is right, as opposed to many smaller moves that is right but get the big one wrong. i'm not saying he's lebron but he's definitely a harden equivalent

 

Would not want anyone else at the helm

 

Why would we fire the smartest GM in the league? Geniuses don't grow on trees!

Genius who replaced Ariza, Luc, Ryno with Melo, MCW, Ennis, Chriss and Knight.

Then turned that big bag of potato chips into NBA CHAMPION Iman "Scottie Pippen" Shumpert