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Morey should learn from OKC's success

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Harden's beard, May 24, 2016.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
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    SF is just being stupid right now. He's basically arguing against what every coach, including KERR (in his postgame ) by citing an article. He's a smart fellow but when he latches on to something stupid he doesn't let up.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Ibaka was out too.

    DD
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Draymond Green- 6'7"
    Steph Curry- 6'3"
     
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    2 weeks ago and well before that, everyone was absolutely certain Durant was going to leave in free agency and OKC was going to be steam rolled by the Spurs. Presti sure did make some genius wheeling and dealing to get them to be the favorites since then.

    Hindsight is absolutely amazing. All we can be certain of is that there is a **** ton of timing involved in winning and you want someone to position you in a place to potentially capitalize on that. Morey has not won every move he's made, nobody does, but he limits mistakes that can completely cripple a franchise and he has generally put the team in a poison to be competitive. If you think he sucks, fine, but without the genius that is hindsight I have yet to see someone even remotely have a better idea.

    Morey completely fleeced OKC on the Harden trade. That's one of the worst trades in the past decade. Fortunately, Presti is a good GM and he retained 2 of the best players on the planet, so they recovered.

    This thread and the multiples just like it are ****ing hilarious.
     
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    We had a major injury too. It was just on the court asking for more touches in the post and killing chemistry.
     
  6. DaGreatest

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    Morey is who he is, we need another gm that gets it.

    Rockets fans worshipped him as a god before he ever accomplished anything in this league and just like Harden he's been ruined.

    Moreys self absorbed being a gm/coach although he's greatly unqualified along with every other gm in the league to perform both duties unless you're a former player ala Pat Riley and stan van gundy.

    Morey is out of hiis league and its time for a competent guy to take over this team.
     
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    Now all of a sudden Morey should learn from OKC and not from GSW, like a few weeks ago.

    If the Raptors beat Cleveland, he should learn from Toronto. But if Cleveland wins the championship, of course he should learn from them.

    Seriously, Morey should just learn from himself. There are plenty of lessons to learn from this season's failure.
     
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    Regardless of Morey's performance, it's hard to objectively rate a GM who had so many high draft picks fall into his lap.

    Teams can't build a Westbrook/Durant/Harden monster without getting several high draft picks in a row.

    Morey's kudos come from getting Harden and Howard externally, which is a decent feat. Fortunately for Presti, Durant/Westbrook are a solid enough foundation that you can just stick role players around them and go.
     
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    6/7 posters are soo bad...lol, i'm embarassed for them.
     
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    Kanter is 6'11. Durant is listed at 6'9 but probably a bit taller. Still, Kanter hardly played in game 3.

    Ibaka who is 6'10 is playing the majority of minutes. The Thunder are going small, not big. Why are you denying that?
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Because they are not going small - they are going big.

    You are basing small on skillset instead of size, which is stupid.

    Going big means getting BIGGER on the floor - OKC is going big with players that are taller - and skilled.

    Going small is playing Corey Brewer or Ariza at PF. They are playing a CENTER at PF....

    They are going big - so not going to bother wasting my time with pedantic nonsense.

    DD
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Keep Howard and play him at PF
     
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    No. They are putting Ibaka at center and Durant at pf, taking out Adams and Kanter who are both taller. Technically, inch for inch, they are going small. Sounds like you are trying to dig yourself out of a hole here.

    In reality - it's more about skillset than height anyway. Moving Durant to the 4 allows them to have more shooters and scorers on the floor to give Westbrook space.

    The long arms help on the defensive side, but this idea of going "big" is ridiculous - how can you go "big" when you are pulling out two 7 footers?????

    The problem GS is having is they don't know how to deal with Durant at the 4 and Ibaka at the 5.
     
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    Last post to you New Yorker because you are just trying to argue to argue.

    Durant is not guarding Green - he is guarding Thompson
    Ibaka is guarding Green at PF - where he blocked the crap out of him and has held him in check.
    Adams is on Bogut - or Ezeli

    All of them are 7 feet tall - and much taller than their counterpart - with the exception of Bogut who is same sized.

    They are BIGGER and TALLER than GS.

    I am sure there are moments in the game where Kanter and Adams are out - but even then they are height for height...bigger. You just live on being a contrarian - and want to argue for argument sake - waste of time.

    The end.

    DD
     
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    This lineup has been on the floor for approximately 8.4 minutes - total - in the whole playoffs - and is +2.8 during those 8 minutes.

    The two most-used front lines eaturing Ibaka & Durant manning the 4 & 5 spots have played for 27 & 18.9 minutes total and range in effectivenes from +9 to ++6

    So you cited: 1) a lineup that OKC does not use very much and;
    2) is not especially effective when they use it

    As proof of your hypothesis.

    Your seasoned eyeball needs to be checked, dear friend.
     
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    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOUR EYE TEST TO BE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.


    http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...donovan-steve-kerr/1dxoohbw0m9hy1p4dayfvgg0b1

     
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  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Niether Ibaka nor Duranta are 7 feet tall
     
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    Except OKC biggest +/- is when both Adams and Kanter are out. OKC outscored GS 91-35 in the 26 minutes in the last two games - with Ibaka, Durant, Westbrook, Waiters and Roberson.

    But that's ok, keep attacking me and just ignoring my point. By the way, you are the one being a contrarian here. Everyone is trying to educate you but your blind arrogance is keeping you from seeing the obvious.

    You know nothing about basketball. At least man up and admit when you are wrong instead of attacking people. Geez. You are no better than ATW.
     
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    I think he has. First off, by implementing HIS vision of how HE sees our offense should be has crippled our franchise. We play a certain way that doesn't fit our personnel. Why exactly? Because that's what the GM saw in his calculator and wanted. Secondly, he's constantly on twitter (and other media outlets) at times saying immature ***** that has devalued our franchise. Players don't want to play here and don't want to play in our Moreyball with Harden. He's also made stupid mistakes like trading Marcus Thornton, giving Mchale a extension, and others to name a few.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Guess which lineup is being discussed right now in another article. - hint, it doesn't feature Steven Adams or Enes Kanter. I guess we are all just being stupid.
     

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