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Morey should be fired according to Kobe

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by _RTM_, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

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    If that is the case, then every GM in the league should be fired right? I can easily name a miss from almost every team in the league.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    You watched six years worth of Rudy Gay and still thought he was on Durant's level. Yet you blame people for not spotting what Lin in while having him in camp for 10 days.
     
  3. Hak34

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    This might make sense...if we didn't keep Flynn and a plethora of horrible morey "talent" on our roster doing nothing other than taking up space and collecting checks.

    To those saying that Lowry is better than Lin...maybe, who's numbers are better? Hmmm outside of turnovers Id say Lin's are better. Can anyone argue that Lin hasn't single handidly make his team and teammates better. You could try and argue it, but you'd look real dumb attempting this.

    Finally lets not forget. Lin is JUST starting out. He may flame out, but chances are he is going to only get better. Which is a scary thought.
     
  4. what

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    i just find it funny that rockets fans can't look in the mirror.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Look in what mirror? The one that makes Rudy Gay look like Durant?
     
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  6. daywalker02

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    stupid or not but it sure is ignorant and selfish....answer
    I am not sure about you guys..... and those always calling guys like Tmac out
    but KOBE IS THE WORST EVER CALLING TEAMMATES, FRONT OFFICE, EVERYONE ELSE OUT... it doesn't matter to him

    He does what he feels like
     
  7. apollo33

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    lol "what" should make a new account, the Durant Rudy Gay thing will follow him around like used hair gel and Glen Rice
     
  8. crash5179

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    Fire the Dallas GM as well (little whistle or Cuban) because he was in the Mav's camp as well.
     
  9. Raven

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    He's right. No excuse, none, and he'd still be on the team if

    1. The Rockets weren't stupidly trying to rebuild w/o becoming a lottery team.

    2. Morey looked at our players as individuals instead of contracts.
     
  10. BleedRocketsRed

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    Not entirely true.

    He was at the Mavs summer camp.

    After a strong performance, he recieved offers from the Warriors, Mavs, Lakers and one other unnamed Eastern Conf team. He opted to sign with the Warriors.

    Source: http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/7/20/lin-nba-summer-sign/
     
  11. plutoblue11

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    Realistically, GMs cannot watch footage on every single amateur athlete, especially in the NFL (which is why the combine is so important). For someone, like Luck and RGIII, it's a waste of time. We already know they are spectacular athletes and about the best QBs coming out of college, right now and possibly the most NFL ready. The combine might be more suitable for the lower rung QBs who have questions about their games or are trying to raise their stock.

    Brett Favre didn't last in Atlanta for a certain reason, he was a wild child, undiscipline, and ignorantly Jerry Glanville didn't think he was the guy. Even in Green Bay, there was questions there by the staff who expected Don Majkowski to be starter for awhile (and hope to develop Favre in the mean time).

    It's the same with Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers might should thank his lucky stars, he got developed in Green Bay, instead of train wreck 49ers. Still, think Rodgers would've been a better QB than Smith, but he would've had a smaller margin for error as #1 draft pick QB going to one of the worst teams in the league versus sitting and learning behind Brett Favre and perfecting his game under a quality coaching staff. Moreover, some GMs/coaches value certain qualities in a player.

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawaka...rodgers-or-alex-smith-column-from-april-2005/

    http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Aaron_Rodgers

    With Jeremy Lin, you have to be honest there's a reason he wasn't drafted. I will guess a big reason is he didn't show this type of potential early on and struggled in alot of different areas. Moreover for some reason, he couldn't beat out the starters or backups on several teams. Most coaches and GMs will show no qualms about putting a better player on the floor, as starter or bench player with significant minutes, if he performs. Hypothetically speaking, what if a player like Shaquille O'Neal or Kobe Bryant never entered the NBA draft and somehow ended up on a team in training camp as amateur player. I have hard time believing either player would get cut after 10 days, even as amateurs (Shaq from LSU or Kobe from high school).

    Given that this is Lin's second season, he's probably worked on a few things in his game, while being able to land in a right situation, where he can grow as point guard. He's been a good point guard so far, but he's still had his bad games, this season. We cannot pretend that he was showing this kind of potential coming out of college, because he didn't. I would think if he were talented enough he could've easily gotten a starting spot or a backup role on a team without question.

    Outsiders of the NBA/basketball (NFL, NCAA, or MLB) and even some fans do not realize how much the talent, personality, and even lifestyles of these players are being nit-picked to the point one might think a team is an obsessive and stalking industrial body of people. Yet, you realize a team is spending millions on choosing the right player. There's a method to their madness and they do their research and argue over every flaw of an incoming player. Because, they cannot see into future, which is why it's a mania. Because, most people couldn't pick him out of lineup a few weeks ago. People are often arguing, he could've started for this team or got minutes for this one. Yet, he didn't for whatever reason, most likely. It just wasn't there talent or even motivation wise. As good as people say he is, he could've easily beaten out second string point guard for a bench spot.


    http://nbadraft.net/players/jeremy-lin



    It's easy for us fans, casual fans, and those who only get caught up media hype movements to sit back and criticize a GM, religiously. I could understand with Matt Millen type or an Elgin Baylor. We tend not realize how serious it is for a GM/scouting team/coordinators an owner to sign the right free agents or draft the right individual. Their jobs are severely on the line, except the owner. More times than not, if they are in the professional ranks of modern sports, time is of the essence and you have very little to waste or experiment with. There's a reason a player, like Tim Tebow doesn't typically go in the top 10 or 20 for that matter, or someone like a polished Peyton Manning would never fall out of the top 7 unless he was involved in a scandal or had troublesome personality or demeanor.
     
  12. Nook

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    Thank you Kobe... So I guess all the GM's that passed on him in the draft should be fired, and the teams that didn't trade for him when Golden State want to move him should be fired as well. Dallas had him at one point, so I guess they should all be gone... Then all the teams that passed on him after GS released him, including the Knicks... They passed when Houston signed him...

    So in short the Lakers front office, Rockets front office, Memphis', Thunder, every other team as well.. Great logic..
     
  13. stefanb

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    that is very true. everyone here was in favor of waiving johnny flynn and keeping jeremy "rin tin tin" lin. it was a very easy decision and now morey is kicking himself in the ass for it.
     
  14. Shaud

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    :( Buckhead Favre :(

    Life of a Falcons fan smh
     
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  15. WNBA

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    The stupidity of this board is comparable to this team's front office.
     
  16. plutoblue11

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  17. BetterThanEver

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    They gave him a look.
    They gave him a contract.
    Lin turned it down. Donnie Nelson invited him to play on their summer league team. He did well, so they gave him offer. He turned down the Mavericks offer.
    He accepted the Warriors offer. He rejected 2 NBA champions to be on the Warriors. He probably thought his chances were better on a lottery team for minutes.

    Here is the Harvard Crimson news from 2010.

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/7/20/lin-nba-summer-sign/
     
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  18. apollo33

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    I'm talking aboot after We waived him.

    Plus he chose GS because he's from San Francisco
     
  19. BetterThanEver

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    When teams submit the waiver claim, priority is given to teams with the worst records. NY had a worse record than Boston, Dallas and LA, so they won. The only way the Lakers were going to win the waiver claim, was if only the Spurs, Heat and Bulls were bidding on him and everybody else stayed out of it. The Lakers had the 4th best record in the league.
     
  20. BetterThanEver

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    http://lakers.ocregister.com/2012/02/12/lakers-did-try-to-claim-jeremy-lin-from-warriors/69243/

    First, Lin rejected their offer. Second, they got outbid by Houston. Third, they gave up on making a bid after Houston's waiver, after other teams with worst records like the Knicks were interested in Lin.

    http://lakers.ocregister.com/2012/02/12/lakers-did-try-to-claim-jeremy-lin-from-warriors/69243/

    Celtics

    http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/16/boston-celtics-attempted-to-claim-jeremy-lin-twice/

    We can be sure of one thing, all the teams that had a worse record than the Knicks did not make a waiver claim.

    The Clippers claimed Chauncey Billups off waivers easily with their 32-50 record. Even though the Heat and Lakers could have used Billups, there was no way they were going to beat out any losing team for his services.
     
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