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[Morey faints] Parsons signs with Dan Fegan

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RV6, May 20, 2013.

  1. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Wooooow....

    Seems by appeasing Chandler and his agent's search for a guaranteed contract at the time, Morey also covered his bases by making sure the team option kicked in at the 3rd year in order to avoid putting himself in NY's position this past year.

    This guy is gooood. :grin:
     
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  2. ooooaaaah!

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    Come on Chandler, you can be our Scottie Pippen. They are equally ugly too.
     
  3. BackNthDay

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    We are going to lose Chandler becuase we over spent on Jlin. There are posters who are saying that CP isn't worth $10 mil a year, however, we are paying Jlin $8 mil a year and we all know that CP is worth at least $2 mil more a year than Jlin. The only way the maintain CP is to trade Lin, Asik, TRob, DMo, and/or Tjones. A lineup of Parsons, PBev, Hardin, Howard, and TJones would be nice with G Smith, Delfino, Garcia, and capable backup PG would be nice..
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lin comes off the books when Chandler is due. Morey will just match Parsons' market value like always and be done with it. If Chandler gets an offer more than Lin's $8 mil that's not Lin or Morey's fault.
     
  5. Fyreball

    Fyreball Contributing Member

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    Lin's contract is for 3 years. Parsons would be due for the pay increase the same summer that Lin comes off the books. The two are mutually exclusive in terms of cap space.
     
  6. BackNthDay

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    Is Dwight willing to waiting 2 years to get some help from CP25. There is plenty of money in LA besides contracts. Endorsements are also a significant piece of the puzzle. However, Kev Durant is everywhere with the NBA and Gatorade commercials. So you don't need to be in Hollywood to get paid from Endorsements.
     
  7. tmacfor35

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    We have Parson's bird rights? We will be LUXURY tax payers in two years.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Championship contenders usually are.
     
  9. Fyreball

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    Dwight made about 5 times less in endorsements this season in LA than he did in his last season in Orlando. LA doesn't offer anything to players who don't win. Winning is and should be the only priority in Dwight's decision.

    I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Is Dwight willing to wait 2 years to get some help from CP25." Parsons is a member of the Rockets.....if Dwight signs here, then why is he waiting 2 years for help from him?
     
  10. Mirri3000

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    I fear that if we sign a max guy, Chandler will push for RFA, and he will be able to receive a poison pill contract. That contract is for 2nd round picks with 3 years in the league, so he would fit the bill, by then, we would be a repeat offender, and thus swallowing $45 mil in that third year
     
  11. pnr

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    Nope, poison pill can be offered only to players with 2 or fewer years in the league.
     
  12. Horry4theWin

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    2nd round picks usually only get 2 years hence the "Gilbert Arenas rule" and the poison pill. Asik, Lin, Fields, and Arenas were all coming off of 2 year deal.The Rockets were super smart and somehow got Chandler to sign a 4 year deal with a team option. But by the end of the 3rd season, it automatically becomes FULL-BIRD rights.

    The only dilemma now is whether or not the Rockets choose to make him a RFA, which would probably be determined on how he performs next season. But by RFA, the Rockets are basically allowed to match any offer that won't be poisoned pilled due to the FULL-Bird rights. Or save money and let him become a UFA after his deal, which the Rockets can't match and any team Parsons signs with, he automatically is part of that team.
     
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  13. Deckard

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    Exactly. People shouldn't freak out about it, either. It's not only where we're headed, but where we should want to be. A contending team.
     
  14. Fighton

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    nice breakdown.

    it would seem that it would be in rocket's best interest to make him a RFA next year. for one thing it helps set the market value for the guy which helps you to not overpay for him. you decide whether to match or let him go based on what the market determines his value to be. or, if no other team is willing to offer him a contract because they believe the rockets will match any contract, then you have the leverage in negotiating since there is no other team competing with you.

    what are parson's options if houston decides to make him RFA, and no team out there gives him an offer? does he have to sign whatever contract houston gives him? does he have a choice to say "i'll wait this out and explore unrestricted FA next year"?
     
  15. Horry4theWin

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    Hypothetically, of no team gives him an offer, then he basically has no other choice but to sign whatever offer the Rockets give him because that basically would be his ONLY contract to stay in the NBA. But actually, if for whatever reason the Rockets make him a RFA, he also can choose to sign overseas and play in Europe or China if he REALLY wanted to.

    Parsons would have the choice to wait it out, only if he had a player option. But since it's a team option, it's solely going to be the Rockets choice to either keep him for a 4th year or as you said let the market dictate what the Rockets will make following his 3rd year. The 4 year looks good in the sense that Asik and Lin's deals fall off, but if the Rockets really wanted to save money for Parsons and lock him up early, they can try to trade either of them to have more to spend on Parsons.

    If worse comes to worst, Rockets give him whatever amount that they agree upon and just pay the luxury tax or he signs with another team as a UFA for an insane amount of money that the Rockets for whatever reason don't want want to give him.
     
  16. RickyNewport

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    Parsons is almost putting up Paul George #'s and he's a better shooter. If the Rockets don't make this kid a restricted free agent next summer so he can get paid _ he'll be mad as hell having to play that 4th year making less than a million...
     
  17. JayZ750

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    Making him a RFA seems like a win-win. You definitively get to keep him (if you want) where that isn't clear as an UFA, and at a theoretically somewhat reduced rate to what he would get as an UFA, where more bidders might up his value. He's happy because he finally gets paid (and starting a year earlier makes up for any reduction he might otherwise be forced to take by virtue of being a RFA.

    The only downside I guess is how the timing works and when you have to exercise the option.

    Could you exercise the option to make him a RFA? Wait for him to get signed by somebody. During which time I'd assume he still counts relatively little against your cap. If you want to sign some other players, you do so quickly, and then match whatever offer Chandler got?
     
  18. platypus

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    This is the type of ignorant thinking that baffles me. Parsons got a deal that most second round picks DREAM of. The organization helped develop him into the type of player he is today.

    Do you think chandler would still be in the league today if he was drafted by a team such as the hornets? Posters here like to make everything into a soap opera.

    Chandler is a ****ing grown man, he understands that the rockets did him a solid by drafting him and giving him guaranteed money. He is gonna play out his contract and then Morey is going to reward him with a good deal. Its that simple.
     
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  19. JayZ750

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    absolutely. why wouldn't he be? good is good.

    No, it's not. Chandler has already asked DM if he could be creative to get more money sooner. There's nothing DM can do, until next offseason, when the team can use its goodwill to make him a RFA, thereby allowing him to start earning mega-bucks.

    Or the team can not do that, maintain better cap flexiblity, but make Chandler upset.
     
  20. platypus

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    Well there this thing in the NBA called player development and coaching. The rockets do it well. So assuming that chandler would be the same player in a different team is basically saying that our coaching staff has nothing to do with his development.

    Oh and about the Dm conversation. Morey was talking about how the rockets give a lot of money to their second round picks. i.e. joey dorsey, jermaine taylor and invest lots of time and coaching into player development. I'm sure chandler understands and appreciates this. So once again the notion that he will be "mad" if they don't make him a RFA is completely born from fan logic.
     

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