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Morey and his argument of "Need 3 elite players to win a title"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonFan81, Jul 15, 2014.

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  1. Yao4REAL

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    Los Angeles 2002 - 3 elite players (Kobe, Shaq and ref)
     
    #41 Yao4REAL, Jul 15, 2014
  2. T_Man

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    Totally agree....

    T_Man
     
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  3. dandorotik

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    Nope, neither at the time.
     
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  4. Shadowz

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    You dont really need 3 stars to win, you just need 2, and bunch of glue players who are on the same page.
     
    #44 Shadowz, Jul 15, 2014
  5. OlajuwonFan81

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    Instead of arguing whether the Spurs have 3 elite players lets get back to the main point. A team does NOT have to have 3 elite players in order to win a championship however they must have an all time great or bona fide superstar. If they do not have that bona fide superstar then they must have 3 elite players.

    I suppose that just about sums it up. In terms of coaching........yes that is a whole different argument.
     
    #45 OlajuwonFan81, Jul 15, 2014
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    Nah nearly every one of those teams had a top 10-15 player of all time on it. THAT is the trend.
     
    #46 jordnnnn, Jul 15, 2014
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    The exception that proves the rule. So in the last 20 years, one time.

    Of course harden could be the next Jordan. What year is harden in? What year did Jordan win first title?

    Go rockets.
     
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  8. Possum

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    Answer me this. How many of those championship teams third best player was better than chandler parsons???
     
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    Spurs just won the championship with a 12 man rotation. You might be able to argue Parker or Leonard are Elite, but you'll find just as many arguments countering - making them not so elite.
     
    #49 MPC, Jul 15, 2014
  10. OlajuwonFan81

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    Not only that but how many of those teams best player was better than Howard or Harden?
     
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    "Elite player" is so nebulous. Counting all stars is more concrete, but I'm too lazy to do it.
     
    #51 sirbaihu, Jul 15, 2014
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    11 to 10 in favor of 3 elite players. Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace and Chauncey Billups were elite that year. That being said, I think Morey is right, but I guarantee he has not given up the idea of winning a championship this year. He knows if he doesn't have 3 elite, you have to win with good defense and hope your two elite get their offense clicking perfectly in the playoffs.
     
    #52 don grahamleone, Jul 15, 2014
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    The question, at least for our context, is how many of those teams' third player is significantly better than Parsons? The answer is almost all of them.
     
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  14. Possum

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    I think you missunderstood my intent. Harden and Howard are elite for sure. They match up well with any two stars on any of those teams. Parsons on the other hand doesn't compare favorably to the third best player on the majority of these teams.
     
    #54 Possum, Jul 15, 2014
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    Absolutely- they're the only exception. I was just responding to the comment that every team had that type of player.
     
    #55 dandorotik, Jul 15, 2014
  16. houstonhoya

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    It's true. Morey's right.

    No offense OT, Mad Max, and Kenny...


    That's why Dream is GOAT.
     
    #56 houstonhoya, Jul 15, 2014
  17. houstonhoya

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    I don't think Morey's suggestion is that you can't win it with only two or one.

    He's really claiming that if you want to be the odds on favorite any given year, the contender of contenders, you need three.

    And clearly, Morey's goal is to make a team that becomes the odds on favorite for at least a couple of seasons.
     
    #57 houstonhoya, Jul 15, 2014
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    Apparently you didn't watch, too young or just don't know how good OT was.
     
    #58 mikol13, Jul 15, 2014
  19. Carl Herrera

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    You need 3 elite players to win a title when elite players 1 and 2 are not elite enough.

    Howard and Harden are no Shaq and Kobe.
     
    #59 Carl Herrera, Jul 15, 2014
  20. houstonhoya

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    I don't remember him being an elite level player. Glad you remember him so fondly though.
     
    #60 houstonhoya, Jul 15, 2014
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