Moderate Islam: Warwick university bans moderate from speaking on Islam, feels it may incite hatred

for a contrast, go look at how Bernie Sanders was treated at Liberty University.

 

Morons

 

In the meantime, Islamists among the migrant asylum-seekers in Germany are threatening to behead Christians and Yazidis in German refugee homes.

 

There are worst cases for example

In Canada, Jewish groups lobbied for the enactment of hate speech regulation, and defend its use today. In 1983, Israel lobbyists filed a complaint against Ernst Zundal over a book he had written. He was tried several times, his citizenship application in Canada denied (even though he had resided there for decades), he was detained for two years without trial, and eventually deported to Germany where he was sentenced to 5 years imprisonment.

 

You are crazy.

So is Ernst Zuendel, a known Nazi, who published books such as "The Hitler we loved and why".

 

What's the German gov. response to this bull****?

 

This is the article about it (in German):

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...-bedrohen-Christen-in-Fluechtlingsheimen.html

In one state (Thueringen), ruled by the leftist party, they are now separating Muslims from Christians and other groups and putting them in separate refugee homes - rather than enforcing the law and forcing the intolerant Islamists to behave or be kicked out of the country. One representative of an international human rights organization said that if you are Christian, the probability that you will be attacked or mobbed in the refugee homes by Muslims trying to "enforce Sharia" is close to 100 %. It's quite sickening.

I don't know what the federal government is doing about it. Probably nothing.

 

Another example

In France, Israel lobbyists publicly complained about comedian Dieudonne’s parodies of Israel and the holocaust. His home was raided, his shows banned, and hefty fines were imposed. England also followed suit and barred Dieudonne’s entrance into the country. In 2003, the French legislator and Israel lobbyist Pierre Lellouche managed to push through a law which extends the definition of discrimination to include nationalities so anti-Israel activists could be jailed. In 2009, the Lellouche law was used to convict 20 anti-Israel activists.

 

Dieudonne is an attention-whoring, anti-semitic idiot. So are you.

 

So you are with freedom of speech as long as it does't criticizes Israel ! Once again such a hypocrite

 

If what you posted is what happens over there that's messed up. It's disgusting that people think the holocaust didn't happen, but freedom of speech is neutral. You can say whatever you want. I think Europeans should be honest with the world like Hungary has and just say they don't want Moslems and to keep the continent Christian. This freedom of speech bs just makes Europe look hypocritical. America and Canada are probably the only places with true freedom of speech.

 

Denying such tragedy is absolutely ridiculous , millions died , many would think majority of the victims were Jews ,but ithey were mainly Polish and gypsies ,Russians then Jews in order.

As of Hitler , he wasn't unique in His radicals approach or ideologies , in the sense at his time , every major nation tought of it self as the special biologicaly super Human [inlcuding the U.S. ] . gays, Dark People or physical/mentally ill etc ,were isolated from the society and considered potential danger to the common well being

And BTY , Hitler achieved his goals and objectives when he promised his people that they will live in better economical prosperity and may own most of Europe .
As a person who lived in both the U.S. And Canada , it's a myth , there is no such total freedom, it's typically selective one .

 

Do you really trust the source?

Seems odd that the only site in English across the internet that references his source is this one:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/...-christian-refugees-germany-daniel-greenfield

Whose headline for their site reads:

Strange how they are the only ones to pick up this German article - and it's no where else in the German press or global one. This would be huge news.

 

http://www.dw.com/en/refugees-dont-leave-their-conflicts-behind/a-18746390

'Refugees don't leave their conflicts behind'
Following reports of aggressive incidents in German refugee shelters, authorities are looking for ways to calm the situation. Suggestions include separate housing for Muslim and Christian asylum-seekers.

There are no official statistics, but aid organizations, social workers and volunteers note that ethnic, social, cultural and religious tensions are on the rise in Germany's overcrowded refugee shelters.
Separating refugees according to religion is now being mentioned as an interim solution to help alleviate the problems.
Up to one million migrants are expected to arrive in the country before the end of the year. The sudden surge in asylum demands this year has authorities scrambling for housing for refugees from war zones such as Syria, but also migrants from Albania and Kosovo. Often converted hotels, gyms, schools and tents are used as makeshift shelters.
Tempers flare easily at close quarters. In Leipzig last week, about 200 refugees wielding table legs and bed frames started a fight after they couldn't agree who got to use one of the few toilets first. It took a large police contingent to calm the situation.
Tip of the iceberg
Other recent incidents include a riot at a refugee shelter in central Germany over a torn Koran and Muslim Chechens beating up Syrian Christians in a Berlin shelter.
Islam is a part of Germany, but Islamism clearly isn't, said opposition Greens party leader Cem Özdemir, adding that tolerance must not be misinterpreted and exploited as weakness.
But insults, threats, discrimination and blackmail against Christian asylum-seekers in particular are a regular occurrence, according to the Munich-based Central Council for Oriental Christians (ZOCD).
"I've heard so many reports from Christian refugees who were attacked by conservative Muslims," said Simon Jacob, of the Central Council for Oriental Christians (ZOCD).
But that's only the tip of the iceberg, the ZOCD board member told DW: "The number of unreported cases is much higher."

The refugees are afraid and mistrustful of authorities, and worried about possible retribution against their families at home, so they rarely call the police, he explained. They have to learn that they have duties and rights in Germany, Jacob said.
Overcrowding isn't the main issue anyway, Jacob argued - it's merely the trigger: "People bring with them the conflicts that exist in their native countries, Christians and Muslims, Kurds and extremists, Shiites and Sunnis - they don't leave them behind at the border." These conflicts erupt when the refugees - often traumatized - are forced to live close together, he added.
Quick fix
For the time being, different religions could be housed separately, Jacob said - but stressed that can only be an interim solution.
It's of the utmost importance that the refugees be integrated in the German system of values, otherwise, they will live in parallel societies, he warned.
The eastern state of Thuringia already tries to house refugees separately depending on their country of origin, but declines to separate them by religion. "Intensely religious" Muslims above all must learn to live with other religions, Migration Minister Dieter Lauinger said.
Bavaria takes into account ethnic background and religion. "Bavaria won't condone attacks on asylum-seekers, and that includes conflicts among the refugees," said Emilia Müller, the state's Minister for Social Affairs.
Police lack resources
Not just local authorities are overwhelmed by the sheer numbers and tasks - German police feel overburdened, too.

"The police are at their limits," said Jörg Radek, deputy chief of Germany's police union GdP. Officers are tasked with registering newcomers, reconciling differences in the shelters and protecting them from far-right extremist attacks.
"We have to do everything in our power to prevent further violence in the shelters," Radek said - and urged housing people of different religions separately.
Different groups band together, and that can quickly turn into a major brawl, Radek said. "In that case, it's not enough to send a lone patrol car," Radek said.
Private security firms already guard some refugee shelters, but according to the refugees, their staff usually stays out of religiously-motivated strife.
But Radek urged hiring even more private security offices to take the pressure off regular police officers. Ideally, the municipalities should hire security personnel experienced in intercultural affairs, he said: "Personnel that understands the various refugee groups' idiosyncrasies."

 

Hey here is another example.

There was a cartoonist that published a cartoon and Muslim extremists broke into the cartoonists office building during working hours and slaughtered everyone inside the building.

 

No, Russia had by far the highest total of fatalities at over 24 million and the actual number is probably closer to 35 million. The Russians purposely suppressed the actual number and they did not have an accurate numbers.
Regardless roughly 15% of all Russians died as a result of World War II.

"Only" 6-7 millions Jews were killed, however 80% of all Jews in Germany were killed and conservative estimates are that well over 50% of all Jews in Europe were killed.

Roughly 150 thousand to 1 millions Gypsies were killed. Roughly 20-25% of their population in Europe.

Every nation has a minority of people that are as you put it "radical". However, Hitler was freely elected and carried out planned and systemic genocide on a scale not seen in the modern civilized world. He did not restrict his actions to his own borders either.

Do not down play what Adolf Hitler and his administration did. They planned and carried out genocide and destruction with efficiency never seen before or sense.

He did? Was that before or after his country lost 10% of it's population, saw it's land carved up like a pig by the USA and Soviet Union and literally had no economy?

I won't disagree with you.

 

I do agree with you mostly specially If Islam means killing ,abusing others and promoting martyrdoms for heaven with a lot of women's then every human should be against it.

As with all Abrahamic religions , Heaven is an extremely good place, in order to be there you have to work on your self to be qualified .

What's for God is prayers ,fasting and once on a lifetime pilgrim trip if possible .the rest is really about living this life. You score more point if you feed the poor, respect others , treat other like you want to yourself, don't lie or cheat etc the list of boring stuff like that not many care to mention include things like taking care of your health, taking care of parents specially when they are old and cranky, the long list of good things include nice treatment to water resources , environmental sustainability , it's even include being good to entire human being Muslim or not. Those things which represents more than 90% of Islam teaching called "Ultimate Jehad "which might be rewarded greater than simply committing a suicidal attempt.

The other Jehad which is negatively famous , called "Minor Jehad" which is related to war times which include many rules such as "no one is allowed to kill children , women ,elderly, armless people or even cutting useful trees etc ., not the Westren media or the radical named Islamic organization recognize it maybe again cuz it's the boring stuffs

Was iSlam in anyway responsible of the total mess in ME! I doubt it.
Arab countries stretch larger than the U.S. area filled with all different people, they are influenced by all the civil movements from Marxists to French Revolutionist and then by the U.S. And former Soviet Unions. They are in many cases preserve them self more royal than the King is the true nature of societies .

Islamic way of ruling is based on Democratic election believe it or not, the first 4 rulers elected after Mohammed were democratically elected but that did not last long, for more than 1400s years the governments were shaped based on ethnic or dictatorial regime even if it was painted in Islamic names .

As of the past century .which contribute the most of what we see today

Check this out "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Aflaq"

Michel Aflaq who was Christian BTW ,for the last 50 years he shaped more than five countries with his philosophy .

Egyptian constitution was written exactly like the one in France .
Separation the Church/mosque from governments was and still dominantly popular in countries like Tunisia ( Hijab was forbidden for decades).Allgeria ( islamist excluded from all governments positions) ,Former Lybia (Gadaffi chose what's right),Syria (no religion but the Ba'ath party believes ) Former Iraq (same with Syria) etc, the ruling families in the Gulf basically Americanized despite their high approval among their population .

Iran is a nationalist country just like Hitler was, it was named from Persia to Iran solely based on the Aryan superhuman race idea

For a god sake even Guevara is more popular and influential than any religious clerk I ever saw.
So again Islam as a religion has Little or nothing in most parts of all those political/religious struggles ,as a matter of fact, Islamic Schoolers had this mantra since centuries " God will be with those country where justice served even if they are not Muslim, and those places with no justice ,they won't last even if they are Muslims "