1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Mobley was Snubbed by Spineless Chronicle

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Aug 14, 2002.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,573
    Likes Received:
    56,307
    Sorry, had to say it.

    What is up with Wally and Houston getting called and Mobley snubbed, and the Chronicle not even mentioning Mobley as an option.

    I don't really care about the World's, but I am amazed that no one has said this, yet, on this BBS. Do only Francis and Griffin get snubbed??

    First, HEY CHRONICLE NEWS SERVICE, Mobley is better than Wally and Houston and would play his heart out for the NT. You could challenge that snub that Wally and Houston were first options.

    Second. Williams is a PG, right? :rolleyes: Thirldy, you are going to fill Williams alternate role with a Vet, a college player, or let it go vacant....nice attempt to field the best team.
     
  2. tozai

    tozai Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2001
    Messages:
    2,263
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree, but who writes for the Chronicle News Service. Are you sure it's not a national or regional wire?
     
  3. off_welfare

    off_welfare Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2002
    Messages:
    579
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was gonna put a thread up on this topic. it kinda pisses me off that they replaced allen with a COLLEGE player and it just had to be Jay Williams. I dislike him already. I hope he's the biggest bust ever!:mad:
     
  4. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,573
    Likes Received:
    56,307
    I'd guess it is for national consumption, but copywritten by the Chronicle. That's why I say they are spineless. It reads like the New York Post News Service.

    snubbed by our own news service, and everyone but A-Train here. ;) We need some Mobley lovin'

    As you recall, he got snubbed for ESPN's Sexiest Athlete award, too, and no one mentioned it here or in the Chronicle, either. Kobe the Nappie Head was on the list for criminey.
     
  5. NJRocket

    NJRocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Messages:
    7,242
    Likes Received:
    27
    HeyP...while Cat would have been just as good (if not better) of an option for the team than Houston, Wally or Williams, it really came down to more of a popularity contest. Didn't you see where they tried to convince MJ to take the last spot?

    I think the NBA uses the World/Olympic teams as a way to market their players given that its a foregone conclusion that no one can beat us if we field the pros. If you look at it that way, Wally (good ol American apple pie boy), Allan Houston (attracts fans from NY) and Williams (next greatest point guard... blah blah blah) are all better marketing "pieces" than Cat.
     
  6. SuperKev

    SuperKev Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    727
    I love the Rockets and hope the Wolves fall on their face but had to say it **Mobley is definately not better than Wally.**

    In fewer minues Wally puts up better numbers than Cuttino in nearly every statistical category.
     
  7. tozai

    tozai Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2001
    Messages:
    2,263
    Likes Received:
    0
    Mobley is a better all-around player. Wally is much more one-dimensional. He does have better shot-selection, but Mobley can score on anyone from anywhere on the court. Also Mobley doesn't want a MAX contract and is one of the most underpaid, and UNDERRATED players. He's a top 10 SG...
     
  8. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,465
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    None of that is an excuse for Cat getting snubbed by the Chronicle! You would think the Chronicle would at least support its own home town team and its players. It's all BS.
     
  9. SuperKev

    SuperKev Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    727
    Wally out rebounds mobley in less minutes.
    Wally out assists mobley in less minutes.
    Wally out shoots mobley by about 20%.
    per 48 minutes the other numbers are nearly the same.

    C'mon now, lets not let our love for the Rockets cloud the facts.

    I think Cuttino is GREAT, but facts are facts. I'm not counting MONEY in this or what a player thinks he's worth or even if I like them or whatever - its just the facts.
     
  10. crash5179

    crash5179 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2000
    Messages:
    16,465
    Likes Received:
    1,290
    I disagree with you and here is a link to another thread that has Cats stats. I would not trade Cat for Wally...no way.

    http://216.40.211.11/showthread.php?s=&threadid=39431

    Having said that, your statement is still no excuse for the Chronicle not getting behind Cat since he is a Rocket. Don't you at least think the Chronicle should support the players from the local sports franchises to some degree?
     
  11. Baqui99

    Baqui99 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2000
    Messages:
    11,493
    Likes Received:
    1,230
    I think it would be funny watching Cat wave off his teammates and try to go one-on-one against international competition. Imagine him jacking up 30 foot shots with guys in his face, while his teammates watch in amazement. When it comes down to it, Cat averaged 20 pts on a very bad Houston team last year. Hopefully he'll share the ball with guys like Ming, Nachbar, and Fat Rice this year.
     
  12. 4chuckie

    4chuckie Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 1999
    Messages:
    3,300
    Likes Received:
    2
    "Mobley is a better all-around player."

    Maybe what you meant to say is neither one plays D


    But as others have said Mobley scores more but that's about it. The only other edge Mobley has is he isn't as big as lockerroom distraction as Wally, but Wally is a better player at this point.
     
  13. kidrock8

    kidrock8 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2000
    Messages:
    6,414
    Likes Received:
    4
    Mobley would be a locker room distraction if he kept isoing himself in the tourney.
     
  14. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,573
    Likes Received:
    56,307
    See. You guys don't understand. Popularity contests go to the SEXIEST!!!

    That's why they always talk about the NBA's "Image," and is why hill-billie Bird's image never replaced slick West as Logo man. And why they know they must market Iverson, because the girls just love his look, and all the boys want to be like him because of it.

    This IS a popularity contest, and when in doubt, the Sexiest win. That's why they went for MJ. After MJ, Mobley is the next choice.

    Wally is kinda cute, but he's an ass about it like he's God's Gift to Sterns. And Houston's got some kinda block-head thing going on, like the dude from Red Dwarf

    LOOK :eek:

    <img src="http://www.jodi.com/images/smeggie.jpg"><img src="http://www.jodi.com/images/allan_houston2.jpg">

    Cuttino has that pure marketing dream sexiness. Afterall, he made the best bobblehead commercial.

    "Unbelievable. They just couldn't stop me."
     
  15. kidrock8

    kidrock8 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2000
    Messages:
    6,414
    Likes Received:
    4
    If Mobley were as good as some people say, then in all likelihood the Rockets would have been better than they were last year, injuries or not.

    Mobley is a nice player, but he accumulated stats on a bad team. Ask Jerry Stackhouse what his stats from the 00-01 season meant. Absolutely nothing because he stepped back a bit in 01-02, and voila, Det starts winning.

    The only way people can say Mobley is a good to great player, is by using stats. My problem is that stats are virtually meaningless, especially if the most important stats, W's and L's, don't stack up to much of anything.

    On a good to great team, Mobley would be a #3 scorer.
     
  16. Stylez

    Stylez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    524
    Likes Received:
    0
    Stop it hp you're killing me!:D

    You're right that the Chronicle should support the hometown players but this isn't to shocking. Hell they gave up on the Rockets last year as soon as Francis went down (they hadn't even played a single game before they were dumped). Hell, the HC came up w/ the title Choke City. But hp at least we have cc.net to represent for Mobes and the crew.

    PS: Shut up kidrock.
     
  17. verse

    verse Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 1999
    Messages:
    5,774
    Likes Received:
    470

    how about steve francis' stats? do they mean anything...or is he not as good as people think since his team lost a lot last year???

    how about pao gasol? is he overrated since his team didn't make the playoffs?

    how about elton brand? overrated too?
     
  18. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,573
    Likes Received:
    56,307
    verse,

    the lack of reason between this thread and kidrock is that he wants to be like a sexy star, hence the nic, but cannot see that Mobley is much sexier than Kobe and Stackhouse.

    He always compares Stackhouse to Mobley. What? Are you BLIND Kidrock, or do you only go for music stars like Pam does?

    Maybe we should start calling him

    Mrs kidrock8
     
  19. kidrock8

    kidrock8 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2000
    Messages:
    6,414
    Likes Received:
    4
    Is anyone hyping Gasol here?

    What does he and Brand have to do with Mobley? Are they both Rockets?

    My point is if every Rocket were as good as advertised at this site, that we would have won the last 2 or 3 titles.

    Mobley definitely counts as one of the players who isn't anywhere near as good as his stats would reflect, nor has he led us to much of anything since he became a scoring option in 99-00.

    Admittedly, I have to respect Mobley as a person for taking less money to stay with us back in the summer of 2000. However, I won't let off the court things cloud my opinion of his basketball skills.

    Objectively, Mobley is nowhere near as good as you or HP hype Mobley up to be. If he were, we probably wouldn't have had a snowball's chance in hell to draft Ming.
     
  20. vtkp99

    vtkp99 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2002
    Messages:
    1,320
    Likes Received:
    7
    AMEN BRO!
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now