If you are talking about Target Corp. which was Dayton Hudson, founded by the Dayton family. Mark Dayton the current governor of MN doesn't have any say in the function of that company and divested himself of it when he ran for US Senate in 2000. Also Target Corp's headquarters are still in Minneapolis. As Pouhe said also it is a publicly traded company so if by "results are still the same" you mean that Mark Dayton moved the company out of MN to avoid taxes, no he didn't nor did Target Corp move their corporate operations.
Actually programs like WIC do that already. Anyway the shutdown just doesn't mean that straight cash support is cut but many other programs that do what you say. Help people be less dependent. Based on the F-35 thread I think almost everyone here in D & D think the F-35 should be scrapped.
*them's is a lot of childrens therr...* Thats a red herring, but I think that is ON-LIMITS to talk about. Is it because the father (more than likely father(s) ) don't want to help out? Did she not know around her 5th child that funds would be harder to come by? Now she coulda had 2 sets of twins in there to spike the total, could be adopting. She could have legal custody of a dead family member's kids, etc ... but there seems to be a bit of living outside the available means there. I don't think there are equal opportunities for EVERYONE. But the size of her brood is something she CAN control. Oh well... Its about the politicians who have similar excess lack of constraint thats equally bad.
I get what you're saying, but where I disagree would be lumping both sides (or "all sides") together like they all do the same thing and to the same extent. I don't think that is true.
True, but it did say that her house had beenbllownaway by a tornado. Maybe her situation is temporary. I agree it is a red herring.
Yes, in no way is this normal circumstance. The house was blown away by a tornado, and being a mother of that many children. That isn't normal. I'm not going to applaud her having 8 kids. I think it's irresponsible of her. Either way I'm not trying to get sympathy for her, but her children who have no say in the matter deserve to eat, have clothes, and a roof over their heads. They also deserve health care. It seems like another case of conservatives making sure that the fetus lives in the womb and is born, and then not caring about the children once they are alive.
Followup on start of day 7 of the MN shutdown. The Republican leadership has rejected Dayton's latest proposals to either have $1 increase in cigarette tax and a temporary increase in the tax rate on MN residents earning more than $1 million a year. http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/125117154.html Its still not clear what the end game will be. Some opinion polls are showing that Dayton has more public support than the legislature and the House and half of Senators are up for reelection in 2012 while Dayton isn't until 2014. At the same time there is discussion that many of the freshman legislators are OK with losing election if they can hold the line regarding the MN budget.
The longest government shutdown in US history might be ending. MN budget deal reached. Gov. Dayton drops demand for raising taxes in exchange for dropping social issue riders, dropping a 15% cut in government jobs and a $500 mil. bonding bill. Increased spending is paid by shifts in payment to schools and using future tobacco settlement money. One interested thing about this deal was that just yesterday there was word that Miller and Coors beers were not going to be able to be sold because Miller-Coors business license hadn't been renewed due to the government shut down. Apparently the threat of not being able to get beer was getting Minnesotans riled up. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43761856/ns/politics-more_politics/ Minn. governor, GOP reach deal to end shutdown Democrats drop tax increase, and Republicans drop 15 percent cut in state workforce ST. PAUL, Minn. — Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton and top Republicans agreed Thursday to end a budget impasse that prompted the longest state government shutdown in recent history, after the Democratic governor surrendered on raising taxes. Dayton said the state government would be back in business "very soon," but he didn't say exactly when. The deal to erase a $5 billion deficit came after a big sacrifice from Dayton, who made new income taxes a central campaign message last year and the centerpiece of his budget. He dropped that and said he would accept — with conditions — an offer the GOP put forward on the eve of the shutdown to bring about $1.4 billion into the budget by delaying payments to schools and selling tobacco payment bonds. Republicans agreed to his conditions, which included relinquishing a list of policy changes such as banning state aid for stem cell research and a plan to cut the state workforce by 15 percent. They conceded to higher state spending than they had wanted. Republican lawmakers spent months insisting that the two-year budget be capped at $34 billion, the amount the state was projected to collect without new sources of money. Instead, it will be closer to $35.4 billion. The deal — if approved by lawmakers — would end a government interruption that has lasted two weeks and isn't over yet. Dayton announced the deal outside his office with House Speaker Kurt Zellers and Senate Majority Leader Amy Koch after a three-hour negotiating session. The somber looks on their faces testified to a hard bargain. "We're on a fast-track to getting this resolved permanently," Dayton said. Dayton said the shutdown would end “very soon, within days,” The Star Tribune reported. "It was about making sure that we get a deal that we can all be disappointed in, but a deal that is done, a budget that was balanced, a state that was back to work," Zellers said. "Nobody is going to be happy with this, which is the essence of real compromise," Dayton said. The deal is contingent on approval by the Legislature, no easy task after an election in which a more conservative Republican caucus took power. But Koch said she believed rank-and-file legislators would approve it. Dayton didn't say when he will call a special legislative session to pass a budget but indicated it would be within days. He said a stopgap funding measure won't be necessary because the two sides will agree on and pass bills setting a new two-year budget. Yet many of the deal's details remained murky, including exactly what will be cut from planned spending. The shutdown has idled 22,000 state employees, closed state parks and rest stops and cut off funding to many social services. It has cost the state millions in the cost of preparing for the shutdown and in lost revenue since then. The interruption has also prevented entrepreneurs and professionals from getting state licenses. The latest licensing snag threatens to stop the sale of Miller, Coors and other popular beers in the state within days. Payments by the state to schools and local governments have continued, and a court has taken some of the pressure off by restarting the flow of cash to programs ranging from child care assistance to home meal services for the elderly. The governor sounded weary earlier Thursday when he told a University of Minnesota audience in Minneapolis that he would embrace the GOP proposal. He said people he met as he traveled around the state had this clear message: End the shutdown. "They want this resolved, and they don't even care how. I care how," Dayton said. The deal is contingent on approval by the Legislature, no easy task after an election in which a more conservative Republican caucus took power. Koch and Zellers said they believed rank-and-file legislators would approve it. Republicans hold narrow majorities in both chambers, and Democratic minority leaders weren't in on the deal-making. "Certainly we're not doing any end zone dances," said Rep. Mike Benson, a freshman Republican from Rochester. "Realistically there are some things that are going to go down hard. Sounds to me we're kicking the can down the road a little bit with the education shift, but we're not raising taxes." Democratic House Minority Leader Paul Thissen said in a statement that it would be up to Republicans to pass the compromise. Unions, and some Democrats, sharply criticized the plan as irresponsible for borrowing against future revenue. "More debt and more borrowing only make this bad situation worse," state Rep. Ryan Winkler, a Democrat from Golden Valley, said in a statement. Winkler said the delay in school funding, which has become a regular part of Minnesota's budget balancing, would "mortgage our children's future." "Some of what we have been working for has been set back years today," said Rev. Grant Stevensen, who heads a coalition of Twin Cities congregations focused on social justice issues and said he was disappointed that Dayton dropped his call to raise taxes on top earners. Outside the Capitol, there was frustration that the impasse went far enough to close government. "I guarantee I lost some business out of it," said Jim Berg, who owns a 13-cabin resort in Crosslake and was hurt by the suspension of fishing licenses in the shutdown. Berg said he's not sure whether the settlement comes soon enough for him to salvage the rest of the summer. "Only time's going to tell that," he said.
