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[Mental Illness] Trump says Obama founded ISIS

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CometsWin, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. what

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    His logic is stupid: but everybody knew that.
     
  2. dandorotik

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  3. leroy

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    Well, yeah. Trump did say it.

    That, like everything else out of the a**hole he calls his mouth, is a lie.
     
  4. TesseracT

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    He might as well have. It's not like he and Hillary didn't give weapons to ISIS, this is proven in her emails.

    And he just gave Iran $400b, and sold $1billion tanks to Saudi Arabia. I love it when we sell weapons to the country responsible for 911
     
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    It's was $400m but please don't let facts get in your way.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    He didn't give them $400 million, it was their money that they paid to us but we stiffed on delivering the arms.

    Also he didn't give tanks to Saudi Arabia. They bought them. It should also be noted that Congress can easily block this sale - but they will not.
     
  7. TesseracT

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    How much was it then? Every source says 400$
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    And you are right, of course. Donald Trump is clearly mentally ill. Mentally ill and the Republican Party nominee running for President of the United States. I'm not religious, but to cover all bases, God help us!
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    No... every source says $20m... Trump reportedly donated $20M to NAMBLA. There has been lots of incriminating discussed evidence here:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=276833

    Word has it the proof is in his tax returns...
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    I have no idea what you are trying to say.

    Yes, I meant the "mental illness" part, just to clarify.

    Deckard understood what I meant.
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    You see here how every half or untruths Trump has spoken gets sucked up by his gullible supporters and how they often argue against their own attacks (ie, the tank sales is actually helping the Saudis help Yemeni forces against Iran-loyal forces). And odd you'd choose now to criticize U.S. administration support of Saudi Arabia... :rolleyes:
     
  12. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    One time? Two time? Maybe even three times? The media and everyone is tire of this same old pattern from Trump.

    Throw out something outrageous.

    Does it stick? No?

    It's the media fault in portraying something he literally said.

    Repeat.
     
  13. Ubiquitin

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    Some early fallout.

    Hezbollah Accuses Obama of Creating IS, Using Trump’s Words

    The leader of Lebanon’s Hezbollah group has accused the U.S. and President Barack Obama of creating Islamic State, using the words of presidential hopeful Donald Trump as proof.

    Quoting the Republican candidate, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah also accused Trump’s Democratic Party competitor Hillary Clinton of helping create the militant group.

    “This American candidate, who speaks in the name of the American Republican party, has facts” that can support this claim, Nasrallah said in a speech on Saturday, according to a transcript published by Al Manar TV.

    The Hezbollah comments are the latest instance of rogue foreign leaders or groups making comments complimentary or supportive of Trump. In December, Russian President Vladimir Putin termed the Republican “the absolute leader of the presidential race.” An official mouthpiece of North Korea’s government lauded Trump in June as “a wise politician.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-trump-right-to-say-u-s-created-islamic-state
     
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    You can't argue with my facts so you post about made up rumors?
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    What "facts" did you post? That the U.S. government returned moneys that were Iran's and that the international courts ruled that were owed back to Iran? That money that was paid back?

    btw, since "facts" seems to be a challenging concept for you:

    http://time.com/4441046/400-million-iran-hostage-history/

    http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/money-america-iran/
     
  16. JeffB

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    And the librul media and critics are over stating the possible effects Teump's words can have on American interests?
     
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    Trump supporter - "Hillary is now working with Islamic terrorist originations to make Trump look bad."
     
  18. HillBoy

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    Whatever else he may be, Trump is NOT mentally ill. He's merely the 2016 version of George Wallace only this time he's doing it to the Republican Party.
     
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    THATS MY JAM!!!!
     
  20. tksense

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    There are a lot of information that proves American support of ISIS. Whether it is accurate to say they "founded" it is a matter of opinion and definition. But yes America is heavily involved in the region including supplying weapons to them and help spreading the ideology as well as promoting the perceived power of ISIS in news media.

    America supplies weapons to all sides of conflicts, first to make greater sales, second, to destabilize the region. Destabilizing is the goal, so there is no authoritarian power in the land to challenge American presence for political gain and business gains, and lots of oils.

    I had some DOD (US department of defense, straight from the horse) papers which talked about this strategy from way back in school, which I can dig up later if u like. Another source would be the Hilary Clinton emails which shows lots of things from a primary source. If anyone bother to examine, I'll dig some up.

    You can also watch a documentary by Adam Curtis, called "The Trap" if you want to understand this kind of military strategy.

    Adam Curtis is famous for his "Century of the Self" documentary about Freud's nephew's influence in American commerce and politics.

    Perhaps what is hard to accept for a lot of Americans is the tearing down of the notion of good & evil. I'd say America is obviously not acting in good faith, so if you can accept that, you will become more equipped to judge information objectively, instead of ignoring them and, and with blind patriotism, labeling the messenger certain things.
     

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