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[Media Conspiracy] "Harden has more help"...since WHEN?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SamFisher, Mar 28, 2017.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    the loudmouth mainstream sports media is campaigning for russ so we rockets fans have to campaign for harden to make it fair. all these wonderful stats and points need to be tweeted, re-tweeted, liked, shared, etc... let's start the campaign now and hit it HARD the last week of the season.

    OKC Thunder went from Thunder Stormchasers to Thunder Statchasers. Personally, "I'M HARD FOR HARDEN" #hardforharden but that's just me.
     
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    Attention, @KellyDwyer! There's a great story in here. Anyone with any basketball sense knows that Harden's All-NBA Team omission last year was one of the most blatant snubs ever. And two years ago, Curry was MVP over Harden because his team had the better record. Now Westbrook is being propped up by the narrative that he's doing more with less, and even THAT doesn't square with pre-season projections.

    The story line: Does Harden's style of play alienate the sports media?
     
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    Good work Sam, you're drilling in on the epicenter of what's wrong with ESPN's 'revisionist history' argument.
     
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    Harrell also has a speed/quickness advantage over Adams, and Nene has years of experience as an offensive threat. If you watch Nene in the pick and roll, he doesn't always catch the ball in good scoring position, but he's able to make it work b/c he's a skilled offensive player with good footwork. Adams isn't. I'm not saying that Adams would be a dud with Harden, but his skillset doesn't mesh with Harden's nearly as well as Capela/Nene's.
     
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    if the argument is that D'Antoni is COY, the Rockets have 2 6MOY candidates, AND that Morey is executive of the year, it does not follow that Harden doesn't have any help on his team.
     
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    They have been saying Harden is surrounded by shooters and Wes has no one to pass to shoot 3s.

    Well, that may be true. But,

    Give us Kanter, Steven Adams, and Ole

    Harden is going to make them look amazing.

    They are just two different players. I highly doubt Wes would somehow dish like a true PG even if he had shooters.

    For crying out loud, He had Kevin Durant on that team and did he play any differently then?

    That's why Stephen A killed clown Max yesterday on the first take



    However, with OP, I would be very careful and still think this is a trap.
     
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    Anyone watching Homeland? We need legions of sock puppets on social media to battle the media's alt.truth

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    Actually Let's do this: swap Ryno+ E.G.+Nene with Oladipo+Kanter+Adams

    We will have
    Bev/Lou
    Harden/Lou
    Oladipo/Ariza
    Ariza/Kanter
    Clint/Adams

    That's a formidable lineup. Granted the 3P will be suffering, we would be killing the Jazz and Heat, teams that we had trouble with current roster with that lineup. Still a 55 win team. Imagine Harden and Adams pick n roll. Oladipo is going to improve 3P b/c he is going to be wide open.

    OTOH
    Westbrook
    E.G./Grant
    Robertson/Grant
    Gibson/Ryno
    Nene

    :) Really, no more need be said.
     
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    Is this dude serious?
     
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    Not only did the media vote for Curry instead of Harden back in 2015, they also voted for Nash instead of Kobe in 2006. Kobe averaged 35 ppg, had less help than Westbrook, and finished 4th! He didn't even have a chance. 2 years later he had a much less impressive statline, but his team won 57 games instead of 45, and that is when the media gave him the MVP award.

    There is decades of precedent that show that the MVP is about being 1 of the best players on 1 of the best teams. You don't just throw history out the window because 1 guy is averaging 2 more rpg than another guy while having a whopping 9 less wins. Westbrook's 31, 10, and 10 is so much more impressive than Harden's 29, 8, and 11 because one statline can be called a triple double and the other one can't? Please...
     
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    If you're an ESPN analyst, you're fully delusional and believe that you're the one who is writing history. No facts / precedent required.
     
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    Here is the media conspiracy counterpoint:

    Sorry but this is unfair to Westbrook because Westbrook has to play with a high usage, volume shooter like Russel Westbrook - this deprives Westbrook of the luxury to create for his teammates and pick up assists from Oladipo the way Harden has from Gordon in Houston.
     
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    media conspiracy

    am i doing this right?
     
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    FAKE NEWS - here is the real picture of the record crowds:

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    Conclusion: ALTERNATIVE FACT
    Media Conspiracy: REMAINS LOGGED
     
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    Westbrook DOES have people he can pass to. He just HAS TO DO IT.

    3pt %
    Oladipo = 38%
    Abrines = 37%
    McDermott = 38%

    All ABOVE AVERAGE 3pt shooters. This "he has not shooters" is complete BS.

    Westbrook also has top flight interior players in Kanter and Adams. And the addition of Taj Gibson.

    I don't want to hear any rubbish that Westbrook doesn't have good support. He has weapons, they just aren't EMPOWERED to do anything on a routine basis. Westbrook is not "making his teammates" better.
     
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    which is why KD left, he said he saw GSW play and just the way they pass to each other inspired him to join them. KD didn't want to be stuck taking turns ISOing with WB any longer. But of course it doesn't matter, he has a triple double.
     
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    I know what the media said at the beginning of the season, however, it's quite obvious that James has better talent around him than Westbrook. Also, any player that averages a triple double deserves the MVP, especially if his team makes the playoffs. I'm hopeful that James gets the MVP but my eyes tell me it's Westbrook. Put Ariza, Gordon, Lou, and Andersen with Westbrook and the Rockets would have the same record.
     
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