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MDA system itself is in great need of adjustment.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BigBum, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. aurocketfan

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    TBH, It's Morey's system rather than MDA's.
     
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    We've had the playmakers the whole time but never invested in knock down shooters. Why not try that before blowing it up?
     
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    We're not playing an mda system other than the freedom bit. Honestly if we just played some defense we would be ok.
     
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    The Rockets aren't truly playing MDA's system if you are talking about what he was doing in Phoenix. What exactly is MDA's system even?

    Like I posted in the other thread:
    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sp...-s-offense-with-Rockets-not-same-12835072.php

    MDA is catering to his players. And maybe you argue that he should try and impose his ideas more, but he's been burned in the past for trying to push his system on players.

    If he was trying to run things more like Phoenix, there would be more specific play calling, more off ball movement, less iso, etc, but he's also playing to effectiveness. More wrinkles might not necessarily make the offense more effective in terms of Ortg, but maybe your creators expend 10% less energy. So how useful do you believe that is?

    Also in the end, a system doesn't magically win, the players do. Look at the success of the triangle outside of the great players they system is known for.

    Rockets obviously have defense as the primary issue and not having as good personell hurts, but so does the fact that opposing teams have seen their switching defense and seen what can work against it from last season, so without the same top personell, the team has to work a bit harder.
     
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    Agree
    Also don’t forget that the clippers grizzlies had injuries last year throughout the season. And they didn’t played well. Specially the grizzlies.

    So having no bench and Cp3 hurt will of course hurt us.

    It hurt us more than Eric has been playing so poorly and that no one can make a layup or shoot 3s. It hurt us that the refs are against us (no kidding)
     
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  6. BigBum

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    Last 4 games, MDA system is not coordinated between first and second unit. System dies at the beginning of second and fourth quarters. Adjustment needed.
     
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  7. napalm06

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    Adjustment in 2nd unit is needed.
     
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    We dont have reliable 3 pointers now. Need to adjust
     
  9. Sidarma

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    Its not dantonis system for sure, look at his 2008 suns team, everybody touches the ball and whoevers open can take the shot.
    Here in houston, the coach basically a puppet due to
    1) moreyball 3 point shot and layups?dunk and free throws only.
    2) everybody defers to beard and cp3 and basically rendering the system useless as they just stand and ball watch as they drible drible for 20-23 sec
     
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    I watch the Raptors play, and then I watch the Rockets play

    disgusting how bad we look
     
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  11. RyanB

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    Basically every other team not named the Rockets are fun to watch
     
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  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    If your system is based upon 3pt shooting, then why fill your roster with guys who can't shoot 3pters?

    DD
     
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    Not to mention 2 of them could be on the top 10 list of best shooters of all time and a 6 10 forward that has the ball handling skills of a guard that can score 30 points a game. Nobody had a problem with the exact same system last year but all of a sudden Pringles sucks?
     
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    The coaching staff hasn't done a good job of preparing this team to play at all this season. Despite the injuries, our roster is still too good for a 9-11 record. They share some of the blame in this for sure.
     
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    this isn’t truly MDA’s system...MDA has already stated that he hates ISO

    PHX led the league in assists for 3 straight years...there was more screening and off-ball movement...they utilized every area of the court and didn’t just abandon the midrange

    they were always 1 of the league leaders in pace, fastbreak points, and points in the paint to go along with threes

    the closest we looked to D’antoni’s true system was his 1st year here...4th in pace, 5th in fastbreak point, 4th in assists, and 6th in points in the paint

    this season: 27th in pace, 18th in fastbreak points, 27th in assists, and 25th in points in the paint

    this is just a continuation of what we saw last season...we play an ugly brand of basketball, but it was all good last year because Harden was having an MVP caliber season, CP3 was playing like a top 10 player, we had a bunch of solid role players who were locked in, and we defended

    I wish we could get younger and more athletic...we are actually the oldest team in the league right now, and we barely have any really good athletes on this team
     
  16. BigBum

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    2019 playoffs age:
    5 of 8 rotations are 34 years old or older
    Paul
    Tuckers
    Green
    Melo (revolving back)
    nene

    MDA system does not work at all.
     
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    With the new "freedom of movement" rules, you're not maximizing what you can do by hoisting up three pointers. I'm all for efficiency, but that only works when you have knock down shooters. Their current philosophy values three pointers, lay ups/points in the paint, and free throws. Why not exploit that and emphasize more free throws/layups/points in the paint. Especially with the freedom of movement rules, you could get the other team in foul trouble so quick. I could only imagine Rick Adelman's motion offense with the current rules...it almost what Golden State is running in essence.
     
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    Morey rarely signs shooters for some reason. His offensive scheme is also gimmicky. Dantoni ran way more plays in the past.
     
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    MDA is in great need of
    Rick Adelman - The Princeton Offense and the Democratic Offense

    The Princeton Offense and the Democratic Offense
    It's a free style. it's constantly flowing. Everybody is touching the ball. You use your teammates to help you get open to get shots. It's not like one person is creating, and everybody else is standing. It's constant movement all the time, and everyone is touching the ball.”



     
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  20. Jump Ship

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    @JCDenton coined the theory that the more points a team scores in a game, the greater there chance of winning the game.

    Basically, there is a direct correlation between points scored and wins. He had a graph and everything. It looked like he spent five, maybe six minutes on it in MS Paint.
     
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