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Man kills 9 people at black church

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mr. 13 in 33, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. Rocket River

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    He killed 3 times as many people as the Boston Marathon Bomber
    Was the Boston Marathon Bomber a 'terrorist'?

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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Both are.
     
  3. ubigred

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    SK34....
    Interesting stuff.
     
  4. robbie380

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    Our War on Terror has been as successful as the War on Drugs.


    Back to the topic this was a pretty disgusting hate crime and RIP to the deceased.
     
  5. Nook

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    "Professional shooter"..... do you mean US soldier?

    Really you lost any credibility after that.... just go back into your cave.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    This man is apprehended alive

    Meanwhile
    <iframe src="https://embed.theguardian.com/embed/video/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    This is American 'justice' for black children . . . . ..

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  7. bigtexxx

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    It was the height of irresponsible data analysis to limit your analysis to "since 9/11". I hate to break it to you, but that 9/11 thing was a big deal.
     
  8. justtxyank

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    Motivation for the crime is what defines something as an act of terror, not the number of victims.
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    Terrible analysis. Too narrow. Do better, Sam. I will remain in this thread based on your failed effort.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    I'm sure they are referencing Cops

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  11. DonnyMost

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    You are (far) more likely to be a victim of domestic (non-muslim) terrorism. Do you dispute this?
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    Based on people killed?
     
  13. Rocket River

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    What do you think this person's motivation was?
    What do you think the Bomber's Motivation was?
    Please explain the difference?

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  14. Bobbythegreat

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    Based on common sense. Based on sheer numbers and proximity.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    "I'm leaving you alive so you can tell people what you saw here"

    Yeah, he's a ****ing terrorist.
     
  16. moestavern19

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    Why is he wearing the flag of a former apartheid state on his jacket?
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Because he's a dick.
     
  18. justtxyank

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    1) Racism
    2) Political statement

    Difference is self explanatory.

    One is a hate crime, one is terrorism. Both get the death penalty. There's no value judgment here saying the racist crime wasn't as bad, don't worry.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    The point of your argument seems to be
    1. If it only affects black people it is racism . . . no matter how terroristic it is
    2. It affects 'all' people [mainly white ones] . . .so then it is terrorisms

    Words Matter

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  20. mtbrays

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    No, the person robbing a store is not a terrorist. The fear they strike into the clerk is not their end goal, it's the he money.

    When you attack a black church without provocation, murder 9 people in cold blood and tell witnesses it's because "you're raping our women and taking over the country," it's not hard to deduce that the motivation is impersonal, racial and, by extension, political. You don't wear the flags of former apartheid states if the latter doesn't enter your mind.
     

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