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Magic Posturing About Keeping Dwight Howard Until Feb. 2013?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. The Cat

    The Cat Contributing Member

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    Still not close. Even if the cap goes up to $60 million, the Lakers would have to have $40 million or less salary on the books to offer Dwight a max deal (assuming they don't trade for him). The Lakers are already at that $40 million mark with Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash ALONE.

    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm

    Even if they somehow used amnesty on MWP and found a taker for Gasol and Steve Blake (combined $23.5 mil) while giving them zero salary in return (almost impossible)... they would STILL be well over $40 million based on cap holds for the remaining 10 roster spots.

    There is absolutely no way on planet earth that the Lakers will have the cap space to sign Dwight Howard next summer (if no trade). Same with the Nets. Sorry.
     
  2. Spacemoth

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    That might be because our team's veteran is Chandler Parsons.
     
  4. crash5179

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    All you need to know about this list is that it values guys like JJ Reddick, Raymond Felton, Carlos Delphino, Ben Wallace and Luke Ridnor over Dragic, Parsons, Scola and Martin.

    That is a list of no substance
     
  5. jopatmc

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    It's 3 years of data, homie, 3 years.
     
  6. crash5179

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    It does not matter. Ben Wallace has not been relivent in over three years. Know one who actually watched basketball would take his body of work the past three years over Scola's. Not to mention, there are players on there with one or two years of service like Landry Fields and Kawhi Leonard. No Courtney Lee?

    That list values Jason Kidds last three seasons of work over Durant, Bynum, Pierce, Pau Gasol. Has anyone really watched Jason Kidd play the last three seasons in Dallas? No Jason Terry on the list anywhere? Terry was arguably the Mavs most valuable player during their play-off run that led to a championship.

    BTW, Isaah Thomas had a good rookie year last year but was he better than ROY Kyrie Irving, teammate Demarcus Cusins or fellow rookies Ricky Rubio or Chandler Parsons?

    Bogus list is bogus and has zero value or credibility.
     
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    LeBron took a pay cut to play in Miami. He made up the difference in endorsements.
    If D12 is determined to play in LA, he could do the same. If he signs a similar 15 million contract as LeBron, Lakers would have room and MLE to acquire other players. I peg DH as the type of person who is driven by his personal achievements. Unlike what most people believe, DH is not all God-given talent. He worked hard to become who he is today, even slept with his list of goals under his pillow. It's hard to deter a person mind when his sight is locked.
     
  8. Fyreball

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    Then how come he didn't end up in Brooklyn?? THAT was his goal....not the Lakers. All of a sudden, you're making Dwight out to be this mentally solid stalwart who is focused and determined, while basically the entire book on him is that he's a flake who changes what he wants every time the wind changes direction. There is no way Dwight does what LeBron does....absolutely NO WAY.
     
  9. rocketjunkie

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    You clearly have no ideal of how the cap works. Just trust us when we say the ONLY way the lakers can get Dwight is before the trade deadline. Otherwise, after the deadline Dwight would have to accept a salary of $3-5m a year max to go to the Lakers (even after they dumP meta and gasol). I don't think he'll pass up a salary of $117m over five years over a $25m/5 year with the lakers, do you?
     
  10. ArtV

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    Either you don't understand the difference or I don't understand your statement because there are a couple of things wrong with your comments.

    1) How will they sign DH for 15 million when Kobe and Pau make 50?
    2) Lebron was a sign and trade and his pay cut was pretty insignificant. The CBA has changed since then.
     
  11. The Cat

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    LeBron signed a six-year deal worth $110.1 million. His "pay cut" was virtual pennies in the grand scope, and he still got the extra year and max raises courtesy of a sign-and-trade. Even if you think Howard would sign for $15 million, there's STILL NO WAY the Lakers can get to $45 million. They already have over $70 million committed for 2013-14. No team is going to take Gasol's $20 million and give nothing back in return. Same with Steve Blake. Maybe MWP can be amnestied, but you can only use amnesty once. And then there's the issue of cap holds to take into account. There is no rational way the Lakers can even approach $15 million to offer Dwight, unless they amnesty Kobe. That's not happening. Sorry. Want to try your math again?

    I peg DH as a guy, like most stars, that's about money. He was SIX WEEKS from becoming a Brooklyn Net. That's all that was left in his Orlando career at the March deadline. But he knew that to join the Nets in free agency, it'd mean a sizable paycut - so he opted in in hopes of forcing the Magic to trade him there and keep his Bird rights. And now I'm supposed to believe that he'll sign for the $3 million MLE (his only shot at LA or Brooklyn) because that's just the kind of guy he is? Puh-lease.

    Dwight's shot at Brooklyn or LA is completely nonexistent unless he is traded there.
     
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    cant happen, no sign and trades for tax teams starting end of season:)
     
  13. Fullcourt

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    Damn, kuku. Get your facts straight before coming here with that mess.
     
  14. Naija Texan

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    Serena Williams unfertilized ovaries are more sturdy then anything Dwight Howard current is packing between his legs.
     
  15. rocketman84

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    Lol, kuku getting owned
     
  16. Rockets2K

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    IIRC, they can not receive a signed and traded player if they are over the tax apron, I dont recall reading they couldn't send one.

    kuku, hope you are reading everything being said in response to you, cause they are totally 100% right, whereas you are not.

    New CBA and cap dynamics are very important when determining what kind of moves can happen, something Mr Howard is finding out right about now.
     
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    I needed to hear this.I agree and good lookin out.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    It is for 2 years, so Parsons is underrated. But the real weird part is Dirk. He is massively undervalued by this.
     
  19. luden

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    FWIW -
    Michael Scotto ‏@MikeAScotto
    Sources tell FOX Sports Ohio they believe Dwight Howard will be traded by the end of next week. (Via @SamAmicoFSO) #NBA
     
  20. Cstyle42

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    Didn't say where though
     

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