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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HRockets, Mar 11, 2015.

  1. WinkFan

    WinkFan Contributing Member

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    All of these kind of prediction metrics love point differential. The Grizzlies have the 2nd worst of the playoff teams.
     
  2. emoreland

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    Wizards helped us tremendously tonight by defeating memphis tonight...making our magic number 5 to clinch the 2nd seed. Huge game tomorrow for Houston and a win would be another step closer to a division title.
     
  3. pkothari1013

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    Does anyone with more knowledge than I do have an update to this? Thanks!
     
  4. emoreland

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    Playoffstatus.com has some info.
     
  5. try

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    Let's get this started again! Unfortunately, the numbers are much larger than they were at this stage of the season in the last years, but that's just how it goes sometimes.

    All the numbers are explained by ScriboErgoSum here.
    The tiebreakers are explained by texasred here.

                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     52-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               30-3    L       No*       49   
    2   Spurs        49-9   9-1   1-2     1H    L   8-2    L    29-5    L        No       45   
    3   Thunder     41-17   6-4   1-1  1H,1A    T               28-6    L        No       37   
    4   Clippers    38-20   6-4   2-1     1H    W              20-14    L       Yes       34   
    5   Grizzlies   34-23   7-3   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   19-15    L        No       31   
    6   Mavericks   31-28   4-6   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   20-16    L       Yes       26   
    7   Blazers     30-28   8-2   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       26   
    8   Rockets     29-29   4-6                     6-6        21-18                           
    9   Jazz        28-29   6-4   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       25   
    10  Kings       24-33   4-6   2-1     1H    W              12-22    W       Yes       21   (-1)
    11  Pelicans    23-34   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-22    W       Yes       20   
    12  Nuggets     23-36   4-6   0-3   None    L              12-26    W       No*       18   (-1)
    13  Wolves      18-40   4-6   1-0  1H,1A    W               9-24    W       Yes       14   
    14  Suns        14-44  0-10   2-0     1H    W               9-27    W      Yes*        9   
    15  Lakers      11-49   2-8   3-0     1H    W               5-33    W      Yes*        4   (-1)

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final


    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 2/26.
     
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  6. try

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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     53-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               31-3    L       No*       49   
    2   Spurs        50-9   9-1   1-3   None    L   9-2    L    30-5    L       No*       45   
    3   Thunder     41-18   5-5   1-1  1H,1A    T               28-7    L        No       36   (-1)
    4   Clippers    38-20   6-4   2-1     1H    W              20-14    L       Yes       34   
    5   Grizzlies   34-24   6-4   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   19-16    L        No       30   (-1)
    6   Mavericks   31-28   4-6   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   20-16    L       Yes       26   
    7   Blazers     31-28   8-2   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       26   
    8   Rockets     29-30   4-6                     6-7        21-19                           
    9   Jazz        28-30   5-5   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       24   (-1)
    10  Kings       24-33   4-6   2-1     1H    W              12-22    W       Yes       21   
    11  Pelicans    23-35   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-23    W       Yes       19   (-1)
    12  Nuggets     23-36   4-6   0-3   None    L              12-26    W       No*       18   
    13  Wolves      19-40   5-5   1-0  1H,1A    W              10-24    W       Yes       14   
    14  Suns        15-44   1-9   2-0     1H    W              10-27    W      Yes*        9   
    15  Lakers      11-49   2-8   3-0     1H    W               5-33    W      Yes*        4   

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final

    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 2/27.

    No chance against the Spurs
    The Rockets fought hard on defense in this game, but the Spurs created good looks with their tremendous ball movement and smothered the Rocket's offense on the other side of the court. This earned San Antonio a huge lead of up to 30 points in the 3rd quarter. Houston battled until the very end, but the deficit was too large to overcome. The final result of 94-104 looks much closer than the game actually was. Leonard and Aldridge combined for 53 points, while James Harden had to earn his 27 points the hard way.

    Terrific battle at the top
    Golden State had to battle the Thunder in Oklahoma City in a highly anticipated matchup. OKC jumped out to an early lead and held on to it for most of the game. Up by four with only 14 seconds left in regulation, the Thunder had the win in sight, but two boneheaded decisions by Kevin Durant allowed the Warriors to tie the game with time running out. In overtime, the Splash brothers scored all 18 points for Golden State, including Curry's ridiculous game-winning three with which he tied the single-game record for three pointers made with 12. Oh yeah, he broke his own single-season record for most threes made as well. Final score: 121-118.

    The other results of the day
    Wolves at Pelicans: 112-110; Blazers at Bulls: 103-95; Grizzlies at Suns: 106-111; Nets at Jazz: 98-96

    Today's games
    Not much going on in the west today: Blazers at Pacers; Wolves at Mavericks
     
  7. try

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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     53-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               31-3    L       No*       49
    2   Spurs        50-9   9-1   1-3   None    L   9-2    L    30-5    L       No*       45
    3   Thunder     41-18   5-5   1-1  1H,1A    T               28-7    L        No       36
    4   Clippers    38-20   6-4   2-1     1H    W              20-14    L       Yes       34
    5   Grizzlies   34-24   6-4   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   19-16    L        No       30
    6   Mavericks   32-28   4-6   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-16    L       Yes       26
    7   Blazers     32-28   8-2   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       26
    8   Rockets     29-30   4-6                     6-7        21-19
    9   Jazz        28-30   5-5   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       24
    10  Kings       24-33   4-6   2-1     1H    W              12-22    W       Yes       21
    11  Pelicans    23-35   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-23    W       Yes       19
    12  Nuggets     23-36   4-6   0-3   None    L              12-26    W       No*       18
    13  Wolves      19-41   5-5   1-0  1H,1A    W              10-25    W       Yes       13   (-1)
    14  Suns        15-44   1-9   2-0     1H    W              10-27    W      Yes*        9
    15  Lakers      11-49   2-8   3-0     1H    W               5-33    W      Yes*        4

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final


    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 2/28.

    Rollin', rollin', rollin'
    With a 21-6 run to close out the first quarter in which Lillard scored 20 of his 33 points, the Trail Blazers built up a 12-point lead. What happened next is unfathomable for Rockets fans: Portland just held onto the lead and didn't allow Indiana to get closer than five points for the rest of the game, resulting in a 111-102 victory. The Trail Blazers have now won 12 of their last 14 games, with one of the losses coming against Houston a few days ago.

    Parsons shines in Mavs win
    The Mavericks dominated the first and third quarter on their route to a 128-101 home win. Parsons had a nice statline of 29/6/4 and Dallas was +31 in the 27 minutes he played.

    Monday games
    The Rockets and the Jazz battle once again for the final playoff spot; today, they both have to travel east to face young and talented squads. The slightly struggling third, fourth and fifth seeds have to go up against seemingly weak opponents, but you never know what happens.

    Jazz at Celtics, Rockets at Bucks, Grizzlies at Nuggets, Thunder at Kings, Nets at Clippers
     
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  8. One Mic

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    Thank you for doing this try! I see there aren't too many replies, but don't let that discourage you from posting, I will read this thread every day and I appreciate your input! I am sure there are many others as well.
     
  9. Tenchi

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    Haven't looked at the playoff picture in awhile but surprised that everyone is geeking out over GSW while Spurs are only a few wins behind. The way it reads in the media it sounds like GSW is 10 games ahead of everyone again.
     
  10. heypartner

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    In Magic numbers, considering GSW has to lose 4 games for the Spurs to even have a chance of reaching them, and GSW has only lost 5 so far, it is pretty insurmountable. And GSW has a huge incentive to not lose more than 4 games, because they'll break the Bulls record, then.

    It is a must that the Spurs sweep GSW the remaining 3 games to have a chance...and to get the tie-breaker.
     
  11. YaoMing#1

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    The rockets really need to win a minimum of 8 games out of the next 10.

    37-32 with 13 games to go, try and win 10 out of the last 13 to finish with a record of
    47-35.

    Not the season we hopped but I think might be enough to the 5/6 seed. Putting us in a series we might actually have a chance at.

    I still think making the playoffs and advancing to the second round is the best way to appeal to freeagents.
     
  12. try

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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     53-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               31-3    L       No*   Out of reach
    2   Spurs        50-9   9-1   1-3   None    L   9-2    L    30-5    L       No*       45   
    3   Thunder     42-18   5-5   1-1  1H,1A    T               29-7    L        No       36   
    4   Clippers    39-20   7-3   2-1     1H    W              20-14    L       Yes       34   
    5   Grizzlies   35-24   6-4   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   20-16    L        No       30   
    6   Mavericks   32-28   4-6   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-16    L       Yes       26   
    7   Blazers     32-28   8-2   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       26   
    8   Rockets     29-31   4-6                     6-7        21-19                           
    9   Jazz        28-31   4-6   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       23   (-1)
    10  Kings       24-34   3-7   2-1     1H    W              12-23    W       Yes       20   (-1)
    11  Pelicans    23-35   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-23    W       Yes       19   
    12  Nuggets     23-37   4-6   0-3   None    L              12-27    W       No*       17   (-1)
    13  Wolves      19-41   5-5   1-0  1H,1A    W              10-25    W       Yes       13   
    14  Suns        15-44   1-9   2-0     1H    W              10-27    W      Yes*        9   
    15  Lakers      11-49   2-8   3-0     1H    W               5-33    W      Yes*        4   

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final


    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 2/29.

    Rockets and Jazz fighting for a lottery spot...
    ... instead of a playoff spot, at least that's how it seems currently. Houston couldn't stop Milwaukee from scoring (Parker: career high of 36, Middleton: 30, Antetokounmpo: 18/17/11), the bench might have been even more terrible than usual and lost 121-128. Harden (26/6/9), Howard (30/13) and Ariza (20/8/11 – close to a triple-double!) can only do so much on offense. It would have been easier to win if the Rockets didn't hand the Bucks their highest scoring game of the season.
    Utah couldn't take advantage, however, and lost a close one in Boston95-100.

    Upper tier does its business
    The Grizzlies beat Denver 103-96, the Clippers beat the Nets 105-95 behind 23/12 by Chris Paul, and OKC comes out of Sacramento with a 131-116 victory (Westbrook with another triple-double: 20/13/15, Durant with 27/10, Kanter shot a perfect 11-11 from the field for 23 points off the bench).

    Tuesday games
    Portland and Dallas continue their battle for the sixth seed, while the top and the bottom team of the conference face eastern teams at home.

    Blazers at Knicks, Magic at Mavericks, Hawks at Warriors, Nets at Lakers
     
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    Honestly the best thing for this team now is to miss the playoffs and reclaim our draft pick, which will be in the lottery. Besides, I'd rather watch Cousins and Rondo in the playoffs than us right now
     
  14. try

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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     54-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               31-3    L       No*   Out of reach
    2   Spurs        50-9   9-1   1-3   None    L   9-2    L    30-5    L       No*       45
    3   Thunder     42-18   5-5   1-1  1H,1A    T               29-7    L        No       36
    4   Clippers    39-20   7-3   2-1     1H    W              20-14    L       Yes       34
    5   Grizzlies   35-24   6-4   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   20-16    L        No       30
    6   Mavericks   33-28   5-5   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-16    L       Yes       26
    7   Blazers     33-28   9-1   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       26
    8   Rockets     29-31   4-6                     6-7        21-19

    9   Jazz        28-31   4-6   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       23
    10  Kings       24-34   3-7   2-1     1H    W              12-23    W       Yes       20
    11  Pelicans    23-35   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-23    W       Yes       19
    12  Nuggets     23-37   4-6   0-3   None    L              12-27    W       No*       17
    13  Wolves      19-41   5-5   1-0  1H,1A    W              10-25    W       Yes       13
    14  Suns        15-45   1-9   2-0     1H    W              10-27    W      Yes*        8   (-1)
    15  Lakers      12-49   2-8   3-0     1H    W               5-33    W      Yes*        4

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final

    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 3/1.

    Not a good day for the Rockets, as everyone but the Suns won their games.

    No Curry, more problems
    The designated MVP was out with an ankle injury, and that definitely showed as Golden State went up against the Atlanta Hawks. The Warriors, especially Klay Thompson, bricked a ton of shots (shot below 40% from the field as a team), but stayed in the game thanks to large advantages in the rebounding and turnover columns. The game went into overtime, where Golden State secured a 109-105 victory to remain unbeaten at home.

    Mavs and Blazers remain tied
    Dallas shot 56% from the field and secured a 121-108 victory against the Magic.
    Portland was fueled once again by its starting backcourt of Lillard and McCollum that combined for 55 points in a 104-85 win in New York.

    Bottom feeders
    The Suns continued their downward spiral by getting blown out 126-92 in Charlotte, while the Lakers won against Brooklyn 107-101 thanks to 39 very efficient points by rookie D'Angelo Russell.

    Wednesday games
    Houston has an easier game than the Jazz, so this would be a good opportunity to pull away a bit. The last game of the night might be the most exciting one, with the Thunder visiting the Clippers in LA.

    Blazers at Celtics, Jazz at Raptors, Pelicans at Rockets, Kings at Grizzlies, Wizards at Timberwolves, Pistons at Spurs, Lakers at Nuggets, Thunder at Clippers
     
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        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     54-5   9-1   0-3   None    L               31-3    L       No*   Out of reach
    2   Spurs        51-9   9-1   1-3   None    L   9-2    L    30-5    L       No*       44   (-1)
    3   Thunder     42-19   4-6   1-1  1H,1A    T               29-8    L        No       34   (-2)
    4   Clippers    40-20   7-3   2-1     1H    W              21-14    L       Yes       33   (-1)
    5   Grizzlies   36-24   6-4   1-2     1H    L   6-5    L   21-16    L        No       29   (-1)
    6   Mavericks   33-28   5-5   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-16    L       Yes       25   (-1)
    7   Blazers     33-29   8-2   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       24   (-2)
    8   Rockets     30-31   4-6                     7-7        22-19                           
    9   Jazz        28-32   3-7   2-1     1H    W              15-20    W       Yes       21   (-2)
    10  Kings       24-35   3-7   2-1     1H    W              12-24    W       Yes       18   (-2)
    11  Nuggets     24-37   4-6   0-3   None    L              13-27    W       No*       16   (-1)
    12  Pelicans    23-36   5-5   2-1     1H    W   4-8    W   15-24    W       Yes       17   (-2)
    13  Wolves      19-42   4-6   1-0  1H,1A    W              10-25    W       Yes       11   (-2)
    14  Suns        15-45   1-9   2-0     1H    W              10-27    W      Yes*        7   (-1)
    15  Lakers      12-50   1-9   3-0     1H    W               5-34    W      Yes*        2   (-2)

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final

    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 3/2.

    Good day for Houston. Despite not hitting any threes, the Rockets won 100-95, proving that playing defense does indeed benefit your team—surprise! The Jazz lost in Toronto, which gives the Rockets some room to breathe. Furthermore, Portland lost in Boston, keeping the hopes for a higher seed for Houston alive.

    If someone else wants to take over this thread for the next days, feel free to do so. I'll probably be back next Wednesday for the next post. :)
     
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    Oh, dear try, thank you, you are such a good poster to us. A kind and gentle and accommodating poster, and we thank you oh sweet, sweet user of forums for the smorgasbord of records you have so aptly laid at our board this day, and each day, by day, day by day, by day oh dear try three things we pray to love thee more dearly, to see thee more clearly, to follow thee more nearly, day, by day, by day. Amen.
     
  17. try

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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     58-6   9-1   0-3   None    L               34-4    L       No*   Out of reach
    2   Spurs       55-10   9-1   1-3   None    L  10-2    L    33-5    L       No*   Out of reach
    3   Thunder     44-21   4-6   1-1  1H,1A    T              30-10    L        No       29   (-5)
    4   Clippers    42-22   6-4   2-1     1H    W              22-15    L       Yes       28   (-5)
    5   Grizzlies   39-26   7-3   1-2     1H    L   7-5    L   23-17    L        No       24   (-5)
    6   Blazers     34-32   5-5   2-2   None    T              23-17    L        No       18   (-6)
    7   Rockets     33-32   6-4                     7-7        22-19         
    8   Mavericks   33-32   4-6   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-19    W       Yes       18   (-7)
    9   Jazz        30-35   3-7   2-1     1H    W              16-22    W       Yes       15   (-6)
    10  Nuggets     27-38   5-5   0-3   None    L              15-27    W       No*       12   (-4)
    11  Kings       25-39   2-8   2-1     1H    W              13-26    W       Yes       11   (-7)
    12  Pelicans    24-40   3-7   2-1     1H    W  4-11    W   16-27    W      Yes*        9   (-8)
    13  Wolves      21-45   4-6   1-0  1H,1A    W              11-26    W       Yes        5   (-6)
    14  Suns        17-48   3-7   2-0     1H    W              11-28    W      Yes*        1   (-6)
    15  Lakers      14-52   3-7   3-0     1H    W               6-34    W      Yes*    Done

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final


    Clinched the #14 seed

    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 3/11.

    We saw some very good developments since the last update. The Rockets are 3-1 so far on their road trip in the East, ending streaks for Toronto and Boston. The rest of the West is struggling, so the magic numbers are dropping left and right, and the Rockets might be able to gain the sixth spot as early as tomorrow. With their best players missing due to injury, it will also be interesting to see how the Grizzlies hold up.

    Saturday games
    The Rockets will wrap up their road trip as they meet their old friend and Clutchfans favorite Jeremy Lin in Charlotte. The more important task will be to stop Kemba Walker who has been red hot lately. Dallas and Portland are also in action, so the Rockets can end up anywhere from 6th to 8th after this day. In the marquee matchup, we will see the Spurs try to extend their ridiculous home winning streak against the Thunder.

    Pacers at Mavericks, Rockets at Hornets, Grizzlies at Hawks, Pelicans at Bucks, Thunder at Spurs, Wizards at Nuggets, Suns at Warriors, Magic at Blazers
     
  18. dakeem1

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    Thanks Try. Keep it going. The magic number updates are very good.

    PS: While I agree that missing the playoffs is a very attractive idea, we are well within reach of 4-6 seed, which puts us in a solid position to get to the 2nd round. This would at least garner us some media respect with the late regular season surge and help make Houston a more attractive FA destination.

    Anyway, if missing the playoffs means a 14th pick, we know how bad Morey is at drafting at 14th. *ahem... Kawhi*.
     
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    This is mana from heaven. Easily my favorite thread on CF. Thanks TRY!!!
     
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                                       Games  H2H        Div          Con   Overall    Magic
        Team          W/L   L10   H2H   Left   TB   Div   TB    Conf   TB  Tiebreak   Number  Diff
    1   Warriors     62-6   9-1   0-3   None    L               37-4    L       No*   Out of reach
    2   Spurs       58-10   9-1   1-3   None    L  10-2    L    36-5    L       No*   Out of reach
    3   Thunder     47-22   6-4   1-1  1H,1A    T              31-11    L        No       26   (-3)
    4   Clippers    43-24   6-4   2-2   None    T              23-16    L        No       24   (-4)
    5   Grizzlies   39-30   4-6   2-2   None    T   7-6    L   23-19    L        No       18   (-6)
    6   Blazers     36-34   4-6   2-2   None    T              24-19    L        No       14   (-4)
    7   Rockets     35-34   6-4                     8-7        24-20       
    8   Mavericks   34-35   3-7   2-1     1A    W   5-8    W   21-20    W       Yes       13   (-5)
    9   Jazz        33-35   5-5   2-1     1H    W              18-22    W       Yes       13   (-2)
    10  Nuggets     28-41   5-5   0-3   None    L              15-27    W       No*        7   (-5)
    11  Kings       26-42   2-8   2-1     1H    W              14-28    W       Yes        6   (-5)
    12  Pelicans    25-43   2-8   2-1     1H    W  4-11    W   17-29    W      Yes*        4   (-5)
    13  Wolves      22-47   3-7   2-0     1A    W              12-28    W      Yes*    Tamed
    14  Suns        19-50   4-6   2-0     1H    W              13-30    W      Yes*    Dwarfed

    * Indicates the Tie Break is final


    Clinched the #12 seed

    Here is the latest batch of Magic Numbers after all games were played on 3/19.

    With the nice win last night, the Rockets sealed the deal over the young Timberwolves, who join the Lakers and the Suns as teams that will definitely finish behind Houston this season.
    Despite going a mediocre 2-2 since the last update, Houston didn't lose a beat in the fight for the lower playoff seeds (special thanks to our struggling friends in Dallas and to the D-League team formerly known as the Memphis Grizzlies). The sixth seed is definitely reachable and with the Grizzlies' injury problems, even the fifth spot may very well be up for grabs. So let's finish the season strong!

    Saturday games
    Nuggets at Hornets, Thunder at Pacers, Rockets at Hawks, Jazz at Bulls, Clippers at Grizzlies, Warriors at Spurs (not relevant for Houston anymore, but a must-watch for NBA fans
     

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