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Luke Walton

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Nov 2, 2015.

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  1. Carl Herrera

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    ... is a great head coach.
     
  2. TheRealist137

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    already better than McHale
     
  3. DeAleck

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    A 35-year-old coach winning in the league? Unless Kerr retires, Walton is gonna get picked up by another team in no time.
     
  4. apcgamb24

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    Isn't he just running Kerr's system though?

    However, being up 50 means he's doing something right
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Yeah, he puts Curry in the game. McHake should try that.
     
  6. Phreak3

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    Easy to coach when your players are hot. Let's see how he does when Curry isn't scoring 30 per quarter.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    Once again, coaching is vastly overrated.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    Sure it is. If the Warriors kept Mark Jackson, it would have been all good last year.
     
  9. Newlin

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    Well, we don't really know. Do we?
     
  10. YOLO

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    So Steve Kerr is believed to be some great head coach by some around here yet Luke Walton comes in and GS looks even better than last year:rolleyes:. "GS won because of Kerr" yeah ok
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Last year, Kerr had the best staff in the NBA with Ron Adams and Alvin Gentry. Coaching isn't just about the head coach.

    Their defense this year will continue to be great. I'm curious what happens to the offense as the season wears on.

    If you don't think firing Mark Jackson helped them tremendously, you are hopeless.
     
  12. YOLO

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    Anyone who attributes the GS success to just the coaching change is "hopeless"

    I've always said all of their core players improved tremendously and at the same time which was the bigger attribute to their success over Kerr stepping in as the coach.
     
  13. tksense

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    Yeah so why do you think all of their core players improved tremendously and at the same time which doesn't happen with any other semi-young teams?

    Curry is not young. David lee is not young. Barnes started out of the gate instead, and given opportunity. Etc.

    Also, team culture, does that ring any bell?
     
  14. A_3PO

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    I never said their improvement was solely due to the coaching change, but it clearly had a lot to do with it, especially on offense. Their offense under Jackson was complete junk and anyone that watched them the prior year would know that.

    Curry didn't get the same looks under Jackson. It was as lot more of a struggle for him. Their ball movement was pathetic and stale.
     
  15. YOLO

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    maybe because they all put in the work to do so? Or is that a crazy idea:rolleyes: Do you get better as a player because you put in the work or is it just because a new coach comes in and you somehow just got better? Curry not young..Since when is 26 not young in the NBA lol
     
  16. YOLO

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    definitely don't think it is as "pathetic and stale" as you make it out to be. There still was a lot of ball movement/screens. But at the end of the day I don't believe the coaching was the bigger attribute in that teams success. Their players put in the work and the coach just happen come in behind to support that
     
  17. RudyTBag

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    Coaching makes a gigantic impact. Naive to think otherwise.
     
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    Does Kobe get credit for Luke Walton's success?
     
  19. YOLO

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    naive to think the players especially young players aren't a bigger impact.
     
  20. Nook

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    Coaching is hard to quantify. I don't know that it can be completely measured.

    For example, Leonard and Parker in San Antonio; were they largely helped by playing for Pop? Would Leonard just be another Corey Brewer if he played for someone else?..... If that is the case, then did Harden improve playing for McHale?..... very hard to know.

    You look at the Warriors, first you have a group of very bright players with no real off the court issues (Curry/Green/Bogut/Iggy/Klay). They have been a unit playing together for years, and with good health. Were they cultivated by good coaching? Mark Jackson is widely considered a bad coach, yet the Curry/Klay duo started to really cement under Jackson. Kerr, was a very bad executive in Phoenix, and in interviews had difficulty identifying fairly vanilla defensive and offensive sets. Yet now, he is heralded as some great coach?

    I believe that there are many factors that come into play, talent and stability, caliber of organization, front office, assistant coaches, head coach and luck.
     

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