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Lin Fouls Video Makes Front Page of NY Times

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Os Trigonum, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. Rox11

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    I honestly prob dislike lof more then tinman because i have actually experienced them in my personal life. Had a close friend (had) who was of asian descent that became infatuated with lin from the start. Any criticism i would make about lin losing Rockets games he would flip out and start blaming the beard and crew, and or pulling the race card and how hard lin had it growing up.... What a joke of a fanbase!
     
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  2. sew

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    Tinman 101
     
  3. heypartner

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    I meant the Tony Allen one. imo, that's not a foul, much less a flagrant. Lin ran into the elbow of Allen. He does that. He did it to Harden as a teammate, for christsakes. That's more of a scramble for the ball than anything else...hence, why they called no foul.

    Kobe, Melo and Aldrigdge are definite flagrants.

    And you can't review a non-call, which shows she doesn't understand the rules.

    bottomline for me is I always liked Lin's determination to drive to the basket and never complaining about hits. Same with Harden. Guys that drive into traffic get hit with incidental fouls. They don't always get Flagrants called. Do guys like to test the metal of players with unnecessary hard hits (flagrants), sure? Is some of that targeting Lin? Sure.
     
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  4. yoeddy

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    On ESPN.com now too:

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...ant-foul-calls

    "Lin has drawn 813 fouls since 2013-14 with none being a flagrant foul. That's the most fouls drawn by a guard without a flagrant foul call, according to NBA StatsCube, and third most among all NBA players, behind only Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant and Chicago Bulls center Pau Gasol."
     
  5. tinman

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    You and I have clashed on mcgrady, but we always talk about basketball on it.

    The race card is always pulled for Lin. Sorry about your friend. seems narrow minded.

    How often was the race card pulled for Yao?
    Why was Yao on TNT talking to the studio and cracking jokes ?

    Hey do I think Lin has faced racism in his nba stint, absolutely. Has Yao, absolutely. Shaq was the one with the biggest racist jab at Yao, now Shaq loves Yao.

    Yao won the respect, he earned it.
     
  6. el gnomo

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    They just talked about this on ESPN First Take. Both Jared Dudley (current NBA player filling in for Stephen A Smith) and Skip Bayless agreed with the video.
     
  7. RedEyesKirby

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    In my opinion, these fans who make the video are the best kind of fans. Instead of sitting behind a computer and raging and complaining unproductively on a forum, she actually took her time to make something happen. Now multiple news source picked it up and perfectly for the right time before playoffs. With so much news coverage on the video, the refs are bound to make some adjustments to make them "look" less biased.

    If Rockets have fans who doesn't just post meaningless post on Clutchfans days after days and instead spend time to make things that would help the Rockets and make media attention it would be much more productive.

    Big kudos to that Jeremy Lin fan. Too bad she doesn't cheer for the Rockets or OKC, would have loved her contribution.
     
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  8. sew

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    Kudos? Making this video clearly makes her an awful wife/parent.
     
  9. tinman

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    Player Only fans should be on Player only sites and not team sites.

    You miss the point of the fan forum, it's for fans of the same interest talking to each other.

    All the videos this crazed fan makes won't affect Jeremy Lin's jumper or passes.
     
  10. kjayp

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    Refereeing in the NBA sucks - and most everyone knows it....

    from Dwight getting called for flagrants that weren't...
    to Lin not get flagrant calls that were...
    to floppers like CP3 getting 'rewarded" for bad acting...
    to "superstar calls"....
    to refs getting busted for gambling on their games...

    all within a multi billion dollar industry...

    just another example of how the NBA is more concerned with how to market their product - rather than worrying about making a better product that will sell itself...

    In this day and age we have all the technology needed to be as precise as desired with any occurrence... but the NBA isn't going to put the money and effort into doing anything - because people are going to pay for their product regardless...

    Why do you have refs running up and down the court? Just put 6 officials along the perimeter... 3 on each end of the court... Every game should be scrutinized, fines or suspensions levied as appropriate against players and refs should have demerits or whatever for any missed/wrong calls with appropriate actions based on qty of errors... quality control!

    but it ain't gonna happen.... because why would the NBA spend money to improve their product when people are going to buy it anyway? smh....
     
  11. yoeddy

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    Yao did not face racism growing up as a kid. Lin did.
     
  12. sew

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    How is that relevant?

    Tinman is correct here, both Yao and Lin experienced racism in the NBA. Yao did eventually gain the respect of the players and officials (for the most part).

    Lin has yet to do this.
     
  13. tinman

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    some dudes like women who make videos of other dudes
     
  14. RedEyesKirby

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    Why do you care about that? If it wasn't Jeremy Lin but Dwight/Harden getting the media attention of missed fouls the fans here would be extravagant about it. Whether she's a good wife/parent doesn't even matter to me, she's giving the team an advantage in the playoffs. So big kudos to the person that sacrifices time to make her fandom/team better equipped for the playoffs.
     
  15. yoeddy

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    It's relevant because how you react to racism is based on your experience with it. For Yao, it wasn't even something that he recognized when Shaq did his "ching chong" thing...but for Lin, it has been something he recognizes because he's faced it over and over again. Different life experiences will result in different reactions.

    And yes, Yao did eventually gain respect...it is great that he had the skills and the heart to achieve what he did. Yi Jianlian, on the other hand, never did gain that respect and was the post-boy for "Chinese players are soft" even after Yao made his mark.

    Jeremy Lin has gained some respect, but does not have the skills to be a superstar in the NBA...as such, he is treated like some of the early black QBs in the NFL, where they could be a solid player, but because they weren't "amazing", they had their share of detractors claiming "black players can't play QB". You had to be a record-setter like Warren Moon or a running-QB like Randle Cunningham to gain any respect. Lin is facing the same "if he's not amazing, he sucks" judgements that those early black NFL QBs faced.
     
  16. tinman

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    All Lin fans believe that Yao did not represent him or Asians in general because he was so tall and talented and had superior skill.

    He not only conquered the language barrier, also he conquered the culture.
    That's hard enough without even playing basketball.

    Pressure? he was the #1 pick and nobody knew anything about him. He could have been a crazy bust like Greg Oden etc.

    Yao's personality, NOT HIS RACE, won him over.
    Yao's skill, NOT HIS RACE, won him over.

    So when LOFs come to clutchfans and start calling people here racist, they could go jump in a frying pan with hot peanut oil.

    Make no mistake, all the LOFs here did not join for basketball. It's for them to spew their race card agendas.
    roast them up and serve them on a bed of pickled cabbage.
     
  17. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    How does it do either?

    "Hsiu-Chen Kuei waited until her husband and three sons had gone to bed one night recently before surreptitiously beginning work on an ambitious personal project.

    As they slept, Kuei, 48, a stay-at-home mother from San Jose, Calif., hunkered down..."

    She's a homemaker who takes care of her kids during the day. Unless I'm blind, nowhere in the article did it say anything negative about her character as a wife or mother.

    It's not like she's neglecting her children 24 hours a day trying to push her Lin agenda. Doing it for 6 nights @ 3 hours / night hardly makes her an unfit...anything.
     
  18. tinman

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    It does qualify her as a LOF and krxsnoopy's golden girls fantasy.
     
  19. rm365

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    Reckless driving is indeed a bad thing but your logic is off.

    When it results in contact not initiated by the offensive player, driving to the hole should result in foul calls and free throws not getting clobbered with no fouls (or flagrant fouls when appropriate) called.
     
  20. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    How?

    Because she wants to bring to light how unfairly Lin has been treated? The video evidence is there. The statistical evidence is there. Anyone who wants to deny anything about this topic is welcome to, but they won't have a leg to stand on.

    I still don't get why some posters are making light of the video creator. The fan isn't trying to relive the Linsanity days, or comparing Lin to NBA greats - she's just trying to point out an injustice - one which is blatantly obvious.

    tinman, I get that it's fun to rile people up (people who like Lin, people who like TMac), but there's no point in doing that, in this thread. You can't attack Lin on this issue, so you have to find an outlet (stay-at-home moms) to vent your frustration on? That's lowest common denominator, brah.
     

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