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Lillard better than Harden?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by digitallinh, May 9, 2016.

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Who gets us more wins?

  1. Harden

    69.1%
  2. Lillard

    30.9%
  1. JayGoogle

    JayGoogle Member

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    I don't think some people will never understand the wear and tear on a body and the drain on the mind to continue to go out and play your best and then still lose. The man is human, the Warriors can drain souls.

    Harden needs help. A strong coach and a few strong teammates that can put the team on their back every now and then and leave Harden on the bench laughing it up some nights.
     
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    One is for certain.

    You will never see Harden go FG 9/30, 3PT 5/18. At least he knows when to stop when his shots are not falling. Lillard literally doesn't care and chucks shots after shots until he can build a castle with his bricks. But he's a great leader tho
     
  3. RedRedemption

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    We did kill him. Those were his statlines during the first three games of the Portland series.

    He stopped chucking after that series. In fact that might have been a blessing in disguise for us to lose and for him to get criticised for chucking.
    Hopefully he learns a lesson in the defensive aspect after these last two beatings by GSW.

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  4. JayGoogle

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    Lol yes, that was a bad Harden year. I wasn't so much mad at Harden though I was so mad at McHale for letting Aldridge Abuse us without doubling, Lin for those turnovers, and Parsons for opening up his mouth about Batum.

    Harden really did have a bad end to that season though. Thankfully he bounced back with a MVP caliber year, hopefully he'll do the same.

    But we know if Harden had this VERY same game where he goes 9-30 and then the shot stops falling in OT people would be killing him here.
     
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    That's like from 2 years ago. Might as well bring up his OKC playoff performance.

    We are talking about current Harden and current Lillard, and there's no question who is more of a chucker.
     
  6. digitallinh

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    I don't think there's no question. Both teams require both players to be the main scoring option, they're gonna take a lot of shots.

    You can call Steph a chucker, he was what 4-20, 0-10 from 3 before he got hot. Should he have done the right thing and stopped shooting or what?

    There is one thing that is certain though. Blazers move the ball a lot more when Lillard takes 30 shots than we do when Harden does.
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    Curry is the greatest shooter of all time. I think it is safe to say that. He finished the game 16-32....you can call Steph a chucker sure, but he made his shots...Lillard missed his.

    Saying he went 4-20 at some point in the game is pointless since guys do get hot in games and as such take more shots.

    well, not on the Rockets. If you make a couple of threes for the Rockets you get pulled out of the game and Brewer comes in for you. No wonder the ball stops moving then.
     
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    Lillard is shooting 37% from the field in the playoffs but somehow that warrants him to shoot more? And don't even bring up Curry's name with Lillard because they are on way different tier.
     
  9. digitallinh

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    It's not pointless when Im responding to someone who claims Harden is great because he knows when to stop shooting when his shot isn't falling.. (he doesn't because we need him to score)

    There are some games you get hot, some games you don't. It tends to even out.
     
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    Harden shot like 40% and 30% from 3 vs the Warriors.. Do you not remember that???
     
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    yes, that's why he didn't take 30 shots in a game
     
  12. digitallinh

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    No he just wastes possessions by turning the ball over.

    but really, maybe he should have taken more shots. WE got blown out 4/5 games....

    wasn't that our only chance though? When Harden scores 40-50 we can beat the Warriors.
     
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    Also he's averaging about 20 shots a game , which is the exact same as Harden this postseason. He's hitting 43% on 9 3's a game. This isn't exactly bad right?
     
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    Well, isn't that what some of us are saying? So he's supposed to have an all time great playoff series and if not then he's worse than Lillard?

    This team is over reliant on one guy, the team goes as he goes. Harden being human means he's prone to have some bad games, some bad weeks, and so the Rockets will as well.

    Maybe if we get him a legit other all-star player to play with him his team would win a lot more.
     
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    You don't win by Harden scoring 40-50 points when every single one of your teammates are bricking wide open shots. Go have a look at Ariza and Beverly's stat in that series. Harden scored 35 in the last game and we still got blown out by like 30. Portland has much more offensively talented players than we do, and at times Mccollum seems like the star of their franchise, not Lillard.
     
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    Lillard is averaging 21.8 FGA including today's game, and 25.8 against the Warriors. And he's playing with another great offensive talent in Mccollum.

    Do you know who was our 2nd most used offensive option in terms of FGA? Trevor freakin' Ariza. That's our 2nd go-to-guy.

    Harden should be the one shooting more, not Lillard, given the circumstances, but it's the other way around, which tells you something.
     
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    Harden 102 73.91%

    Clutchfans has spoken.
     
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    Lol, this site... Posters have brought up actual stats as to why they think Harden is better, but it's not good enough because Lillard took his whole team out for whatever. Guess what, Howard did some team building **** too, I guess he's a better leader :rolleyes:. But Harden haters "that's not good enough, blah blah blah blah" for real, this forum (as soon as Rockets are out of playoffs) becomes as much of a joke as the Rockets season. And obviously I'm not talking about everyone, but just look at the top posts. Lol, Houston needs a coach first before we need to worry about a lot of these trivial topics.

    And that Portland/Hou series was more an expo on bad coaching and LMA hitting everything, ooooooooo right, Harden was supposed to guard LMA, man if only he took the team out to eat on the bus they would have advanced, Lolol get real, as soon as LMA came back down to reality, Lillard and co wilted to the Spurs (some of you act like they won it all, hahah). Man they looked awesome against the Spurs (no they didn't).

    If the Clippers didn't have catastrophic injuries in the post season this year Lillard would be at the club w/ Harden already. Ooo right Curry was hurt against the Rockets, I forgot that (I didn't), but the Clippers are basically 2 players with fill-ins, while the Warriors on the other hand are still pretty damn dominant w/o Curry (that's how deep they are).

    Also it must be nice for Lillard (you know... when he's not pulling his best Westbrook impression) to have a 20ppg SG to pass to, while Harden is basically the Rockets backcourt. Maybe Houston needs to get some worthy players for him to lead, he can't work miracles and neither could Lillard with this squad.
     
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    He's averaging 33 points and 46% from 3's.

    And ONLY 2.5 TURNOVERS


    2.5 TURNOVERS

    46% 3's

    That's not Harden like
     
  20. BackdoorHarden

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    Harden:

    31% 3's, 5.2 turnovers

    As stan lee would say, "NUFF SAID"
     

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