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Lieberman: "There is no humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Mathloom, May 30, 2010.

  1. Hydhypedplaya

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    Because the blockade in addition to Operation Cast Lead caused the humanitarian crisis...

    A blockade is a collective measure. No country can take collective measures that do not distinguish between civilian and military. Potato chips, chocolate, coriander, fresh meat, and dried foods are a bunch of items (from a large list) that are banned under the blockade. You mind telling me how any militant group in the Gaza Strip can use potato chips to attack Israel's sovereignty?

    Banning these type of items do not distinguish between civilian and military uses, which constitutes an illegal blockade.
     
  2. glynch

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  3. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    I truly think those are the only people who want a Jewish homeland, only run by Jews.

    Admittedly, the Christian part I was told about just recently on the board.

    If I'm wrong, I'm happy to be corrected..
     
  4. Mathloom

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    It shows that the Israeli government is not being held accountable, not being sufficiently monitored, and abusing this blockade for commercial interests as well.

    Cinammon is allowed. Coriander is not. Look these things up, you will find some interesting stuff.
     
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    Not happening, Egypt designated the Rafah crossing as a "people only" crossing, with perhaps small amounts of aid let through it. It is not really designed for heavy trucks going thru both directions. Egypt opened it for people mainly so Palestinians can go through it and either seek medical treatment or stock up on foods and medicine and other necessary items. I strongly doubt Egypt will let it be used in any other way. The main passage for trucks is still through Israeli territory.
     
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    Looks like the EU will break the blockade. Good news for the growling bellies of Palestinain kids. Israel is trying to resist despite inspections that would be done to insure no weapons.
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    The European Union wants to help open a sea route to Gaza and to revive and expand its role at the land crossings into the area, diplomatic sources told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.

    Its Foreign Affairs Council plans to debate the matter on Monday, when ministers from the EU’s 27 countries convene in Luxembourg for their monthly meeting.

    The debate comes amidst sharp international criticism of Israel’s three-year policy of closing Gaza’s land passages to all but humanitarian goods.

    “The EU has called for an immediate and sustained opening of the Gaza crossings and they will look into options of how the EU could facilitate this,” a council spokeswoman told the Post.

    According to diplomatic sources the EU has floated a plan for Gaza-bound ships to be inspected in Cyprus to ensure that no weapons are on board.
    http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=178138
     
  9. Mathloom

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    Awesome news!!

    It's not rocket science. Glad someone made it happen.
     
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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37747430/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

    Israel says it will ease Gaza blockade
    Construction materials OK'd after deadly flotilla raid
    JERUSALEM - Israel agreed on Thursday to ease its land blockade on the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip, hoping to quell growing international criticism following a deadly sea raid.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office released few details about the changes in its three-year-old blockade, and it was not clear whether any firm decisions had been made.

    The only item singled out in its statement was a plan to allow in desperately needed construction materials for civilian projects, but only under international supervision.

    Israel has barely allowed in materials like cement and steel, arguing that Hamas militants could use them to build weapons and fortifications. That policy has prevented Gaza from rebuilding after Israel's fierce war in the territory last year.

    There was no mention in the statement of any change in other damaging aspects of the blockade, like bans on exports or allowing in raw materials used in industrial production.

    Israel's naval blockade will also remain in force. The statement noted that Israel would "continue existing security procedures to prevent the inflow of weapons and war materiel." Netanyahu has repeatedly warned that if the naval closure is lifted, Hamas would turn Gaza into an "Iranian port."

    Deadly raid sparks criticism
    Israel has been scrambling to find ways to ease the blockade since a May 31 raid on a blockade-busting flotilla turned deadly. The deaths of nine Turkish activists on board one of the ships drew international attention to the blockade and provoked much anger against Israel worldwide.
    Israeli naval commandos said they were forced to open fire after they were attacked by a violent mob of activists on board the ship. The activists say they acted in self-defense.

    Israel, with Egypt's cooperation, imposed the blockade three years ago after the Hamas movement, which killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide attacks, violently wrested control of Gaza. For the most part, only basic humanitarian goods have been allowed in.

    But the blockade failed to achieve its aims of stanching the flow of weapons to Gaza or weakening Hamas. A network of smuggling tunnels under the Egypt-Gaza border became a conduit for both weapons and commercial goods sold at black market prices. Gazans sank deeper into poverty, turning their anger against Israel and not their Hamas rulers.
    Hamas calls move 'window-dressing'
    The partial lifting of the siege did not satisfy Hamas. "We want a real lifting of the siege, not window-dressing," said Hamas lawmaker Salah Bardawil.

    In the West Bank, the rival pro-Western Palestinian government of President Mahmoud Abbas also rejected the Israeli decision. Negotiator Saeb Erekat said the closure should be ended altogether. "The siege is collective punishment and it must be lifted."

    Amid the heavy international criticism that followed the Israeli naval raid, Egypt opened its land border crossing with Gaza — the main gateway for some residents to enter and exit the crowded territory.

    But most Gazans remained confined to the territory because Egyptian officials say they have let in only about 10,000 people with special travel permits, such as students and people with foreign passports.
     

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