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Leslie Alexander: It's time to say goodbye

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Jones, Jan 11, 2012.

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Alexander bye bye ?

  1. 100% YES and take Morey with you.

    21 vote(s)
    8.7%
  2. Yes! It's time for a fresh breeze

    37 vote(s)
    15.4%
  3. No, he's been a great owner!

    105 vote(s)
    43.6%
  4. No, he's not the problem (roster, coach, gm is /are)

    41 vote(s)
    17.0%
  5. Meh...he's okay

    37 vote(s)
    15.4%
  1. Da Wink

    Da Wink Member

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    saying goodbye to the owner? fool!
     
  2. kjayp

    kjayp Contributing Member

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    Soooooo over 70% think Les is AT LEAST ok..... think the remaining less than 30% will rethink their opinion? bettin not.. lol
     
  3. TheBookOfOlu

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    Dumb Dumb Dumb Lol Yeah I Wanna See What Yall Say When Houston Lose The Rockets To A Lame Ass City. Nothing Wrong With Les, And If You Ask Me I Wish I Can Rid Some Of These Dumbass Fan's. (F-)
     
  4. TheChosenOne

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    Really surprised at all the support Les is getting around here. You guys realize he's Drayton II right?
     
  5. Nero

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    Um, no. Drayton owned a team that had some success DESPITE his ownership. Alexander has been one of the best owners in the NBA when it comes to empowering his basketball people to do their jobs.

    I will say, however, I am becoming increasingly nauseated by the guy sitting courtside all the time with no socks on, so we keep getting these prolonged TV shots of his slug-like bare ankles twitching on the screen.. PUT SOME SOCKS ON, LES!! EWW. AND MAYBE WEAR SOMETHING LONGER THAN CAPRI PANTS FOR A CHANGE!
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    What?

    The same Les that held JVG accountable for empty seats, and the same Les that is not letting Morey do the right thing by playing all young guys and building through the draft?

    That Leslie? That is how he is empowering them, by holding them accountable to crap positions?

    DD
     
  7. Nero

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    Alexander let CD do his thing. It's not Les' fault that that resulted in players like Sam Mack, Moochie Norris, Mo Taylor, Walt Williams, Kelvin Cato, Glen Rice, etc etc etc on and on.. he let the basketball people do their thing mostly without interference.

    He let Rudy decide to gamble Horry and Cassell on Chucky (didn't turn out so great, but it COULD have), he let them send out Thorpe for Drexler (how did that one work out?), he let them send SF3 away for TMac (a big gamble, but better for us in the long run I think), and on and on.

    He is not afraid to take the big gamble, and he hired a smart leading-edge guy to lead the charge.

    Drayton, on the other hand, was one of the worst things to happen to pro sports in Houston since Bud Adams.

    I am not saying Alexander is the greatest owner ever, but when someone compares Les and Drayton, it's time to object to that assertion.
     
  8. dobro1229

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    Since when is Morey the coach? McHale has every right to start Patterson over Scola or Terrence Williams over Kevin Martin. However, he wants to win ball games to keep his job right?

    Morey could trade Scola and Martin, but wait.... he already did a few weeks ago and Stern took a piss on Morey's front lawn.

    The young players are getting a chance to play if they earn it through practice and hard work, and they are better players because of it. Im not sure if you noticed or not that there is a certain Rookie this year that has already worked him way into the starting lineup.

    You have made some decent points over the years against Les and the way he's run this organization but the argument that holds his staff accountable for doing their job at the highest level in the league is a pretty weak one.

    -JVG got let go for a variety of different reasons, but his style of play was just one of them. It was just time to try a new style of play with the group of stars they had at the end of the JVG era. You make it seem like Les was asking JVG to stand on the corner of Westheimer in a Clutch the Bear suit begging street walkers to come to games or something.

    Les has his negatives, and doesnt necessarily have the deep pockets that some owners have, but he's certainly better than most. Until another Mark Cuban or Jerry Buss are in the market to buy the Rockets Ill be happy to stick with Les for the time being.
     
  9. JLOBABYDADDY

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    If 50,000 of us on clutchfans kicked in about $7k each we could buy him out. Then we can argue amongst ourselves about tanking, playing or not playing TWill, trading or not trading Kevin Martin, etc. The only way you get a new owner is by not watching/not following the team/not buying tickets. We are all junkies, so that won't soon happen.
     
  10. MadMax

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    Drayton bought a franchise that had been in receivership. It sucked beyond all belief at that point. He managed to build it into a franchise that won the award for being the best organization in all of baseball. That was a gigantic accomplishment. He maintained relationships with players that built tremendous loyalty, particularly from Bagwell and Biggio. The Astros went on a 10 year run that was matched only by the Braves and Yankees.

    He wasn't perfect...and as his tenure went on he lost sight of investing into player development. But the Astros didn't go from the dregs of the league to being named the best organization in all of baseball (top to bottom) by accident.
     
  11. RedStaag

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    Lol, so what are you gonna do- fire him. lol, he owns the team. he can run it into the ground if he wants, its his money. The fans are emotionally invested in the team, but as long as he is making a profit, i doubt he minds so much
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    You won't know who is looking to buy until the team is put up for sale. And, you won't know if that buyer is better than worse than Les until after the team is bought.
     
  13. davidio840

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    Wouldn't that be one hell of a ownership lol! Similar to the GB Packers. Clutch would be the President, Bima the Vice President/Financials and the rest could be voted in. All trades/drafts would be majority vote from Clutchfans (i.e the board). :p
     
  14. ico4498

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    you couldn't get 50,000 fans to agree the sky is blue ...
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Nor do most of them have the $7k either.

    :)

    DD
     
  16. dobro1229

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    Do you really think Stern and the owners committee have no idea who is inquiring about owning an NBA franchise? Come on now. If there is a big whale out there who is inquiring about owning an NBA team, it will get out eventually.

    If there is a big whale out there looking to buy an NBA team then we will all hear rumors about them being in talks about other franchises that are for sale. Not necessarily just the Rockets.

    Most of the nba teams out there are being bought by groups and not sole owners. I'd rather have one voice in ownership than a group of millionaires who can't agree with anything.
     
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  17. TheFreak

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    LOL at "the award for being the best organization in all of baseball". Did you give them that award? ;)
     
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  18. Jontro

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    Of course not! What an absurd thing to say.

    The sky is white.
     
  19. choujie

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    He let CS do his thing, he let Rudy do his thing, he let Morey do his thing, but under one rule: don't pass luxury tax threshold.

    He was not afraid to take big gamble, trading solid players for super stars. But what kind of "gamble" is that? Even if those superstars are becoming old, they still sell tickets. Most of the owners in NBA will do that just to fill the seats.

    In Yao's 10 years in Houston, Les only went over lux tax threshold once by a mere 2 million despite Yao being one of the biggest money making machine in NBA history. You'd think a 4th biggest market team with a money machine player like Yao should have a top 3 payroll every year.

    Look at Orlando owner, Cleveland owner, Lakers owner, Boston owner, Dallas owner, and now Miami owner, they all go over the luxury tax line to compete once they have their superstars. NY owner even went 100 million player without a super star. What did Les do when he had a healthy Tmac and a healthy Yao? Split MLE to get a couple garbage players like Charlie Ward etc.

    Is Les really better than them in terms of trying to win? I guess not.

    Les is way better a business man than a NBA owner. A greedy business man. And some Rockets fans still think he's a great owner, that's why they'll be disappointed every year.
     
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  20. MadMax

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    The Astros won this award in 2001.

    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/awards/aw_org.shtml

    Organization of the Year Award
    In 1982, Baseball America began naming an overall organization of the year. The editors pick a selection based on a franchise's performance during the season with the team, coach, general manager and organizational package taken as a whole.

    Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a comprehensive list of teams honored by "Baseball America" with the prestigious Organization of the Year Award along with basic win-loss data and links to the teams' winning roster (and stats).
     

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