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[LeBron Talk] Finals MVP on a losing team

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by LCAhmed, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    ON an unrelated note, JJ WATT, MVP
     
  2. oelman44

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    I'd pay to watch this. Would love to see Steph try to act like this doesn't bother him but in reality you know he is throwing a tantrum inside
     
  3. Juxtaposed Jolt

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    If I was a Cavs player and LeBron won it, I'd rush the podium while passively aggressively nudge Warriors players out of the way and celebrate with LeBron as if we were the ones who won the title.

    It'd be even sweeter if it was at Oracle Arena.
     
  4. MD_in_Training

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    Lol, wut?

    Westbrook can probably put up gaudy numbers like this on the Cavs, but they would get blown out 4 straight games.

    Yao would not even be able to get the ball on this Cavs team with one dude fronting and two other guys ready to pounce on the help, while sagging off their guys on defense.

    Harden would retreat to his mental abyss once GS sends a few double teams his way, and make him play 48 minutes of defense.
     
  5. KingLeoric

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    IDK he's shooting 40% and have been mostly anti-clutch.

    Last year so far
    Lebron .571/.519/.793 28.2/7.8/4.0
    Leonard .612/.579/.783 17.8/6.4/2.0

    This year
    Lebron .399/.344/.712 36.6/12.4/8.8
    Curry .447/.407/.944 26.2/5.0/5.8
     
  6. KingLeoric

    KingLeoric Member

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    * This year so far
     
  7. conquistador#11

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    jordan never won an mvp on a losing team.. Lebron> jordan.

    =/
     
  8. BigMaloe

    BigMaloe Contributing Member

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    LeBron definitely deserves it. Never liked the guy but sheets respected his dominance but he's elevated to another level that is historically memorable. I can only sit back and enjoy.

    If we insist on picking a player from gsw if they shall win it should go to iggy. He has been there most valuable player easily.

    Media will still choose wonder boy.
     
  9. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    I will make up a stat: Wins Over Replacement Player

    Now I will make up some results:

    - I'd say Lebron is probably responsible for 1.5 wins over replacement player this Finals.
    - The rest of the Cavs for 0.1 wins over replacement player

    For the Warriors, with their 3 wins, even if you say
    Green = 0.5
    Bench + Barnes = 0.5
    Thompson = 0.5
    You'd still have to split the remainder in 2, imo, for Steph and Iggy - obviously Iggy isn't stopping Lebron, but then again Lebron isn't being very efficient in his dominance, and the insertion of Iggy into the starting lineup seems to have "changed" the series as much as anything. So..

    Iggy = 0.75
    Curry = 0.75

    Meaning, if I am measuring value as someone who has most contributed to getting the wins necessary to try and win the championship, Lebron is in the clear lead.

    If Curry comes out and dominates Game 6 in a Cavs win, he will win the MVP.

    If Curry is average, for Curry standards.. which might mean really good for anyone else, and it's a close game, or goes to 7, I don't see how you don't give it to Lebron. Otherwise might as well change the name of the award to BPoBT - Best Player on Best Team
     
  10. ksny15

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    Curry got MVP in the regular season only because his team had the nest record. That won't change in the finals either even though LBJ obviously deserves it
     
  11. robbie380

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    Defense is a part of basketball as well. Lebron has been holding the Cavs together on the defensive end too.
     
  12. ibm

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    how so? anything to back this up?
     
  13. Kwame

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    I don't see how you don't give it LBJ.
     
  14. YOLO

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    why. it's pretty easy cause you don't give it to a team that loses even though he's doing everything he can. that won't happen in today's nba
     
  15. Easy

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    I am not a LeBron fan, and I don't hate Curry like so many posters here. But I do think that LeBron is by far the "most valuable player" in this series, much more than any GS player.
     
  16. robbie380

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    I've been watching the games
     
  17. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Contributing Member

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    LBJ snubbed. Harden snubbed.

    LBJ to Houston for vet min to take revenge on Curry confirmed.
     
  18. qiankun

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    Just how Harden was robbed :rolleyes: the regular MVP
     
  19. xaos

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    Lebron should've won regular season MVP, too.

    How is it overlooked that the Cavs were 1-9 without him and went on like a 12-game winning streak the moment he came back? That's pretty valuable.
     
  20. Johndoe804

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    Has to be LeBron. He is the definition of MVP for his team in the finals. Without LeBron this is already over. Cavs best player would be Thompson?
     

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