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Lebron ruined the NBA when he joined the Heat

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by donkeypunch, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Contributing Member

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    LeBron James is one of the best players to play this game. He IS the most dominant player and has been for quite some time.

    How is it someone like LeBron only has 3 rings in a time period where very very few players stick with a team? He should have several by now, not throwing his hands up, going to LA and quitting.

    LeBron has taken it up on himself to be player, GM and coach, going to teams who give him full control. Instead, he should have gone to teams who have competent owners and GM's and let them run the team. If Lebron could check his ego, players would be begging to come play with him. This is what Phil Jackson did very well with the Lakers and Bulls.

    Now LeBron has set this trend where players think they know better than the GM's and coaches.

    The Warriors are very fortunate they drafted so well, picking up players who's ego's do not exceed the team as a whole.
     
  2. apollo33

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    it was more like Durant. Warriors were actually put together quite organically through great/lucky drafting and contract.

    2016 playoffs were very even at the top, Cleveland, OKC and GSW were all evenly matched. and Spurs were just behind them. The balance got destroyed by Durant
     
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    Lots of players think they know better than coaches and GMs, its called ARROGANCE.

    Yes Lebron is indeed too arrogant for his own good, its his biggest failing IMHO. However why does everyone act like Lebron is responsible for everything? There were no power teams before Lebron showed up. There were no controlling players before Lebron showed up ( btw didnt Jordan kick Isiah off the all star team?) Etc etc. Is Lebron some sort of Adam figure who ate the forbidden fruit and gave all the NBA players wisdom? Wtf is up with that? Nba players live in a different time compared to the 90s, they are more globally aware of their power and influence.

    As Lebron only having 3 rings, teams win championships and not individual players. Hakeem is way better than Jordan but only has 2 rings because he was drafted by the Rockets and Jordan was drafted by the Bulls. If you reversed that Hakeem would have 8 rings and Jordan would have none.
     
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    It's a lot easier to check your ego when you are guaranteed massive endorsement money. All this hyped salary selflessness of the Warriors is total BS. They are getting millions extra thrown at them b/c the SF tech billionaires don't know what else to do with their money.
     
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    Warriors team is what Lebron thought his Heat team would be when he made decision pt 1. After their underachievement, he tried again in Cleveland. If only other star players wanted to play with him instead of avoided playing with him. Bet he never thought his “super team” inititive would come back and bite him on the arse.

    But hey at least he didn’t try to join the Warriors this year, that’s some leap of courage!
     
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  6. SS0101

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    Exactly. People seem to have already forgotten (I know there are lebron apologists here), the "not 1, not 2," bs he was parading around. The warriors are exactly what he envisioned. Then an aging and declining wade plus a team strapped for cash (it really is hard to maintain a roster of 3 max salary players) led him on what he successfully fooled people into being a hero story by "going home." Well, all he really did was swap wade out with Irving and swapped bosh out with love. Don't forget...love was what lebron always wanted from bosh. By the end of that heat run bosh was almost exclusively camped out in the corner. Lebron single handedly turned the league into nothing more than AAU basketball and shame on the NBA for allowing it.

    And oh btw...these idiot players are only hurting themselves by taking paycutss, min deals, and 1 yr deals. This is not good for the middle class NBA player. The "max contract" needs to go.
     
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    The Rockets when healthy are better than GSW. Should we be disbanded too?
     
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    The only problem I have with Lebron is not that he left Cleveland the first time but how he left. Even though the Cleveland fanbase was terribly hurt I don’t think they would have reacted as bad as they did had Lebron left like he did this time. Everyone involved in that seperation the first time learned from their mistakes. From Lebron ,the owner and all involved. The seperation appears much more civil this time.
    Durant... smh... even the warriors and management make fun of his move.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    You can't blame LeBron - the league capped his salary at about 50% or less of his actual value for over a decade.

    He operated within those constraints that he didn't impose and would not have favored.

    If the league wanted the CBA to enforce more competitive balance they could have put more provisions in to foster it or more aggressively reviewed trades. They didn't.
     
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    No. Durant ruined the NBA. Lebron's Miami team was unproven and accomplished nothing before he joined. Durant's b**** ass joined a championship team that just beat him the year before.
     

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