Wade is the 2nd best player in the league? lol? The Decision is to Lebron as is Jordan's Retirement is to the Houston's' two championships. It's something people always will bring up, but the real fans won't care.
People also said joining Wade, he wouldn't win another MVP. So no, the only thing that can hurt his legacy is not winning multiple championships, not playing with Dwayne Wade.
By "people" you mean just you, bro. Why don't you think about the logic of what you're posting first? If Lebron colluded with other superstars to form a super team then he doesn't have to do any heavy lifting, right? I mean, he has TWO superstars on his team. And yet, he won the MVP simply because he put up 27 pts, 14 rebs and played amazing individual defense. What kind of super team requires you to put up that kind of production night in and night out? Secondly, what does making a contender organically mean? Has there ever been a team that won rings without some kind of trade or signing to bolster the team? You're holding Lebron to a standard no other player has met, its no secret star players want to play with other star players. There was that video showing Kobe b****ing about how the Lakers didn't want to trade Bynum for KG/JO, CP3 wanted to be traded to NYC, Melo wanted to go NYC, KG was traded to Boston along with Allen etc. etc. etc. Basically if a GM forms a super team he's a genius, but if the players decide they want to play together they're doing collusion? LMAO wtf is the difference when Boston got KG and Allen to play with Pierce and when Wade got LBJ and Bosh to play in Miami? Its ok to be totally envious of them but saying it stains their legacy is preposterous. THe NBA has always been about the super teams, like when Chicago had MJ (aka GOAT), Pippen (aka 10 SF ever) and Rodman (aka one of the best defenders/rebounders ever) on the same team.
No. I think people already decided that his rings wouldn't be regarded as the same once joined the Heat. I'm talking about the non-majority of Heat fans. It most definitely hurt his legacy. Yes, you can argue that Wade is. If not 2nd, then he's most definitely the 3rd best player. Not talking about "the decision" - I'm talking about him teaming up with two other stars to form a super team. That already hurt his legacy as a player. And either way, that's a terrible analogy to Jordan's retirement. Nobody really brings that up because we wouldn't know what happened, only speculate.
lol.. Are we going to start to diminish how good of a player Wade is now just to benefit LeBron? You can argue that Durant is the 2nd best player right now but after that its definitely Wade and yes Wade is the best SG in the NBA. This is coming from someone who's been a Kobe supporter. Competitive balance has changed. It's given other players a reason to ditch their teams to make superteams too. The Heat are arguably the best team in the NBA. Surely are right now. It's just a matter of when they want to try.
Durant was robbed. OKC had the same record in a way tougher conference. Durant had great numbers and less support. Heat were supposed to go on 70/82 winning rate and they ended up as 4th best record in the league. That said it all.
Who cares about your so called legacy. His legacy will be among others multiple MVPs since Jordan..... Rings will follow. Simple.
Not at all. But stating that he joined up with the other best player in basketball is simply not true. Wade hadnt made 1st team All-NBA or escaped round 1 in how many seasons prior to last one? I can argue for quite a few players not named Kobe over Wade. Competitive balance hasn't changed. How teams are formed has. Players realize they can take matters into their own hands instead of pulling a KG or Nique, and that's smart. As far as balance, this decade looks just like every decade for the past 30 years....a few stacked teams and a bunch of pretenders. And LMAO at competitive balance in the NBA in general, where like 8 teams have won the last 20+ titles.
Truth is, he does not have one. Anything could happen from today till the of his career and he just does not have one. Lebron could tear something and never be the same again or the Heat could meet another team like the Mavs that gets hot in the finals and then implode. No guarantees. There is rarely ever a cakewalk to a championship. One thing about the team that is going to come out of the west, that team is going to be battle tested. Just like the Mavs were.
Ironic, coming from a guy who apparently failed to notice all the people agreeing with me. This was not exactly an uncommon opinion from the media during "the decision", either. The perfect analog is Jordan circa 1989. How do you feel Jordan's legacy would be affected if, instead of sticking with the Bulls and going on to lead one of the greatest dynasties in sports history, he chose to go to LA and play with Magic and Worthy instead? Even if he accomplishes just as much, if not more during his career in terms of titles and MVPs, it still wouldn't be considered as exemplary as what he did in Chicago. Like they said themselves: "There's no way, with hindsight, I would've ever called up Larry [Bird], called up Magic [Johnson] and said, 'Hey, look, let's get together and play on one team. In all honesty, I was trying to beat those guys.'" -Jordan "We didn't think about it 'cause that's not what we were about. From college, I was trying to figure out how to beat Larry Bird." -Johnson There's something extraordinary about players who are able to take their given situations and rise to the pinnacle. That's what sets the Hakeem's and Jordan's apart from these guys. They took what was in front of them and persevered anyway, proving they were good enough to not only win without the best players in the league alongside them, but good enough to beat those players. That particular distinction is forever out of the reach of Bosh, Lebron, and Wade now.
So let me get this right, the distinction is out of reach because he chose to play with less talent than Magic, Bird and Jordan won titles with? Which of their title teams had less talent on it than the Miami Heat from the last 2 seasons? Wow, Jordan really preserved....sticking it out on a team so good they almost went to the ECF's without him. And Magic really stuck it out by coming out of college early to play with Kareem. I didn't realize Bird or any other combo in the league was much better than Kareem & Worthy.
Nice strawman. Did any of those guys get frustrated at their lack of success, call up a few other all-stars, and collude to play on one team together?
Bird and Magic obviously had no need for that since they played with stacked teams. Jordan stuck with it though and it paid dividends. He did have 3 all-star caliber players with on the 70 win squad (Pippen, Kukoc, Rodman).
