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Lakers pursuing trade for DeMarcus Cousins

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jun 22, 2015.

  1. ThaShark316_28

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    Superstar killing Karl does it again!

    But CF wanted him here.
     
  2. aumate

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    Wow, Gay for Haywood to backup James would be good for Cleveland. Works too.
     
  3. steddinotayto

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    I don't want to see Ariza get traded but I'd move him in a heartbeat for Boogie.
     
  4. i3artow i3aller

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kings?src=hash">#Kings</a> PF Jason Thompson on Cousins w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN">@FisolaNYDN</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/Scalabrine">@Scalabrine</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA">@SiriusXMNBA</a> “Sometimes it’s not all about what u can bring to a team&quot;</p>&mdash; Bill Herenda (@billherenda) <a href="https://twitter.com/billherenda/status/613339934049484800">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  5. Cashmoney

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    Seems the Kings have pulled out of the Lawson race.... If they aren't after him, then who is??
     
  6. JayZ750

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    Not that they should, but it wouldn't be crazy for the TWolves to offer the #1 for Cousins.

    At least, unlike the Cavs and Love, Cousins would be locked up for 3 more years.

    And if KAT turns out to be as good as Cousins... well, probability is low and it will take 3-5 years. Of course their core is 3-5 years away.

    But could both teams benefit from something like the below:

    #1 pick, Kevin Martin, Ricky Rubio

    For

    Cousins, #6 pick

    Sacramento rationale
    Rubio seems like a PG that could work well with Karl. Martin has done really well in Sacramento in the past, and was off to a great start before last year's injury. And they get the #1 pick and KAT.

    Minnesota rationale
    Seems like they want to move on from Rubio anyway. Martin is a nice player on a solid contract, but is coming off injury and doesn't fit into the rebuilding movement. They give up the #1... BUT they get Cousins, and the #6 pick, where there's still talent. LaVine, Wiggins, Cousins, Dieng, Pekovic and the #6 pick, plus cap room. It's a solid base to build on. Your concern is that you are still a couple of years off, and Cousins is likely very tired of losing.

    Anyway, just a thought.
     
  7. The_Yoyo

    The_Yoyo Contributing Member

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    If the Kings are willing to bit on Howard for Cousins - Morey better throw everything at them but Harden.

    I mean

    Howard
    Kpap (for cap clearing reasons)
    #18
    #32
    Jones or Dmo

    Take back Boogie, Landry and Collison
     
  8. h-townfan

    h-townfan Contributing Member

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    Thats not a bad deal for both teams
     
  9. c1utchfan925

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    Kobe and Cousins on the same time? I can only imagine the chemistry issues. Cousins if motivated correctly (huge IF) can be a great player that can put up numbers but does not make sense for the Lakers unless they can get someone else as well (possibly a significant free agent).
     
  10. J.R.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...cus-cousins-owner-vivek-ranadive-not-allow-it
     
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    Both.

    Warning signs were there. It was said Cousins and/or his camp didn't want Karl. D'Alessandro/Kings hired him anyways.

    Of course D'A is now in Denver with Malone, who he didn't want in Sacramento.

    One big ol' cluster****.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is a lineup of players who tweeted about snakes after playing for George Karl.
    (h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/teamziller">@teamziller</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/netw3rk">@netw3rk</a>) <a href="http://t.co/rwnlvyuGlS">pic.twitter.com/rwnlvyuGlS</a></p>&mdash; CBS Sports (@CBSSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSSports/status/613378638264692736">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Paul what he was finding so amusing this morning. He said,&quot;Aw, nothing. Just reading Sactown Royalty.&quot; <a href="http://t.co/D7QYlKGSsn">pic.twitter.com/D7QYlKGSsn</a></p>&mdash; Cindy Westphal (@GrammyWeeze) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrammyWeeze/status/613373075292164096">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave">@CarmichaelDave</a> reporting that DeMarcus Cousins asked for a trade one month ago. CD adds that Cousins’ camp was split on the decision.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613368453278269442">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski">@aaronbruski</a> I know it's semantics, but it was his management that communicated it in an LA meeting.</p>&mdash; Carmichael Dave (@CarmichaelDave) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/613368734455967744">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources have painted a picture of Cousins’ ambivalence and/or struggles with a decision to leave Sac. His agents are leading the charge.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613369273394659328">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The George Karl story from Yahoo! Sports could be spot on, but a number of sources expressed caution last night due to past reports.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613370376517627905">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As for the ESPN reports, to a source they each felt it was a Dan Fegan strategy designed to agitate Cousins and the Kings into a trade.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613370734358859776">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Echoing the <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave">@CarmichaelDave</a> similar report, sources have reported multiple instances of Pete D polling people ‘Karl or Cousins’ for months.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613380447997837312">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PDA was the driving force behind hiring Karl, had received authorization from Vivek to do so, but waited 24 hours b/c of concern over DMC.</p>&mdash; Aaron Bruski (@aaronbruski) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbruski/status/613380902597451776">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Too many internal details for it not to be... all of them paint George Karl negatively and as anti-DeMarcus <a href="https://t.co/aLCdWAy6XS">https://t.co/aLCdWAy6XS</a></p>&mdash; Steve Kyler (@stevekylerNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/613389172498272256">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  14. hooroo

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    Why let the dud GM you're about fire to hire the new coach?
     
  15. Major

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    Those guys wanted to be traded. Who is the last max-type franchise player that was traded against their will?
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DeMarcus Cousins' response to trade rumors is a trend among George Karl-coached players <a href="http://t.co/NZjcRzEZz5">http://t.co/NZjcRzEZz5</a> <a href="http://t.co/JmB9gKUrkf">pic.twitter.com/JmB9gKUrkf</a></p>&mdash; Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/613361768149196800">June 23, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  17. roslolian

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    Harden? Didn't he say the Houston trade took him by surprise?

    Seriously though, everyone already wants a trade when they get traded, it's because the trust is gone when the max guy learns he might be traded and so would want a trade by the time the trade gets finalized. For example in this particular scenario Boogie Cousins now wants out of Sac as you can see from the quotes above this post. This is also why guys like Kevin Love and all the rest of these other guys voiced their desire to be traded before they got traded.

    In the hypothetical scenario that we want to trade DH, he would request a trade immediately once he learns Houston wants to trade him so even if the Sac trade doesn't materialize we would still have to trade him so I don't think there will be a "ruined reputation" case for Houston.
     
  18. Major

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    Harden was a 6th man when he got traded. He wasn't a centerpiece of their franchise and wanted a bigger role. Kevin Love had wanted out for a year - he had made clear he wanted to go to a contender and wasn't going to stay there longterm. Cousins is a good example of why not to try to trade your superstars that don''t want to leave - they've now created a situation where if he doesn't get traded, he may be back to being a malcontent, and Sac's front office is coming across like a bunch of morons.
     
  19. ThatBoyNick

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    Cousins in the #1 center in the league, a 24 year old 6'11 270 superstar who is an absolute monster.

    The dude just came off his best season with career high's across the board.

    24 ppg 13 boards, 3.5 assist, 2 blocks and 1.5 steals per game while shooting 47/78 % from the field and FT line.

    Who in the hell would ever trade that away.
     
  20. Raven

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    If the Rockets trade Dwight, you can kiss off any chance of them ever convincing a star free agent to sign with Houston, not w/o a no trade clause.
     

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