Don't you mean "elevates?" Next year with Austin Rivers and the third and best Plumlee brother should be interesting...
Kobe - No College Durant - Texas Rose - Memphis Melo - Syracuse Howard - No College Gasol - No College Williams - Illinois Paul - Wake Forest Duncan - Wake Forest Westbrook - UCLA Rondo - Kentucky Amare - No College Dirk - No College So if Duke is so overrated, where are these superstar producing colleges? Duke players don't do any worse in the NBA than their piers. They come out as high characters players, conductive to winning basketball. Technically Mason in the best Plumlee, but Marshall is better than Miles and has the most size. So many ignorant Rockets fans, it is not really Duke's fault that their two leading HOFer players in Hill and Brand during the past decade have suffered career altering injuries. Grant Hill and Brand were literally MVP level players before their careers were derailed. Anyways, Duke is going to be churning out some Kyrie Irvings or Austin Rivers soon. That'll be enough to life them up for the next decade or so.
I'd love for us to get Irving in the draft. Morey, git 'r done, please. Another Dukie I'd like, if the roster spot opens with future Morey moves: JJ Redick.
Irving grows up in the local Gym here in NJ, I watch him playing and even had a few games against him when he was a boy. His best comparison is CP3, no doubt. magnetic hands, quick , smooth, shoot, creativity , vision, personality , muscle and energy. He has every tool to be a superstar. The only thing I concern about him is his height, not a outstanding tall kid, but I never see anyone handle the ball better, highly skilled.
Your username is really funny. I guess back in 99, you couldn't imagine you would become just one of the 10K Chinese posters here.
The problem with Duke players in the past is they only had people that were shooters...not bangers or playmakers...Name a Duke player who could get off a decent shot besides Grant Hill?...Their point guards were essentially long distance bombers...None could penetrate to create offense for others...Their wing players were again spot up long distance shooters...Their frontcourt players essentially play like garbarge men late in games...Alot of hustle and grit but no post moves.......Center position is a joke ..no need to elaborate on that..........This is why their players dont translate to NBA superstar material...I would stay away from any Duke player if I had a top 5 pick.......
Yes, you convinced us there is a curse. Moreover, as an adult with a mature brain, you should also spend this much time convincing us that Unicorns eats spinach; Rainbows gold should be priced higher than standard gold; Elvis just beat Obama in a basketball game yesterday; The earthquake in Chile was caused by a bug in the Matrix.
my username is priceless! Time flies, I joined the clutchfan since Hakeem era, no Yao, few foreigners then, but Hakeem the Dream gave us more to cheer than the whole team today. I couldn't imagine there would be so many Chinese posters, I thought my username would be very unique back then, Go Rockets and Hakeem Forever!
When I get home, I will compile a list of every Duke player chosen in the top 15 of an NBA draft and how their careers went (or is going). Busy right now tho.
Instead of posting stupid **** like a r****d, why don't you give some concrete evidence to disprove this curse? Perhaps another school with an unfortunate history like this one? Best of luck to you. r****d.
Why should I disapprove it? You already convinced me. In fact, who with an adult brain would not believe in a curse?
^^Duke Hater. Must take comments with grain of salt. 1. I never said JJ and Shelden outperformed their draft stocks. Atlanta and Orlando were dumb for drafting them that high, because even in pre-draft camps you could tell that they were severely lacking in athleticism. Shelden's like 6'8-6'9 and dominated college because it was a smaller league in general. JJ dominated with the three, plus he was of good size in college (6'4) but undersized when compared to other NBA 2-guards. They were CLEARLY overrated going into the draft; Morey's even said it. For them to still be playing meaningful roles on CONTENDERS no less is a surprise and an example of how hard work and not being an ******* (*cough* *cough* Rashad McCants) give you a chance at actually breaking through in the NBA. 2. ALL OF THIS DUKE CURSE BS IS IRRELEVANT. If I am the team drafting #1-3 next year, and Irving's available, I'm taking him, "Duke Curse" or not. You wanna miss out on this kid because you're dumb as nails and believe he will blow out his knee like Shaun Livingston just because Shaun Livingston almost went to Duke and Kyrie will be punished also? You can be next year's Atlanta Hawks. Go draft your UNC kid (Marvin Williams). I'll take the lightning quick PG with good defense and unsurpassed handles (Chris Paul).
What does believing in curses have anything to with age? I am not buying into the idea that alot of this bad luck happening to players who come from a certain school are coincidences. How does that make me a child exactly? Dukies suffering major injuries like Grant Hill, Elton Brand, Jay Williams possibly stopping them from HOF careers is just a coincidence? Top 5 picks like Danny Ferry, Christain Lattener, Shelden Williams, Mike Dunleavy not panning out are all coincidences? The fact that Duke has had so many high draft picks and never had any HOF player is just a coincidence? I think that there something deeper than that.
Cherokee Parks begrudgingly approves. There's also the Duke guys who went IN the program with HYPE but fizzle early before even getting to the NBA (Anyone remember William Avery, Chris Burgess?) I don't really count injuries, those are asterisk players. Sure the players don't pan out, but I don't think Duke or anything in the Duke air PUTS the extra injury susceptibility on the players. Anyway, here are all the Duke players since 1990 that have actually played NBA minutes. (sorted by the "From" column) http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=duke Code: Rk Player From ▴ To G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% MP PTS TRB AST 25 Alaa Abdelnaby 1991 1995 256 3200 620 1236 0 3 225 321 283 846 85 71 70 247 484 1465 .502 .000 .701 12.5 5.7 3.3 0.3 26 Danny Ferry 1991 2003 917 18131 2505 5615 677 1724 752 895 647 2550 1185 384 292 811 1964 6439 .446 .393 .840 19.8 7.0 2.8 1.3 27 Christian Laettner 1993 2005 868 25760 4036 8405 92 353 2957 3604 1621 5806 2224 917 675 1932 2768 11121 .480 .261 .820 29.7 12.8 6.7 2.6 28 Brian Davis 1994 1994 68 374 40 126 1 3 50 68 21 55 22 16 4 19 34 131 .317 .333 .735 5.5 1.9 0.8 0.3 29 Bobby Hurley 1994 1998 269 4170 361 1023 64 235 246 320 53 283 880 120 7 385 360 1032 .353 .272 .769 15.5 3.8 1.1 3.3 30 Antonio Lang 1995 2000 143 1395 121 266 0 8 87 121 80 210 50 55 46 89 207 329 .455 .000 .719 9.8 2.3 1.5 0.3 31 Grant Hill 1995 2011 887 31115 5810 11945 158 528 3979 5184 1093 5699 3964 1144 513 2265 2115 15757 .486 .299 .768 35.1 17.8 6.4 4.5 32 Cherokee Parks 1996 2004 472 7459 868 1848 8 38 312 495 564 1703 265 207 306 281 931 2056 .470 .211 .630 15.8 4.4 3.6 0.6 33 Roshown McLeod 1999 2001 113 2130 338 827 5 45 136 166 91 308 124 41 14 140 198 817 .409 .111 .819 18.8 7.2 2.7 1.1 34 William Avery 2000 2002 142 1205 137 415 40 157 65 91 17 93 199 34 6 106 125 379 .330 .255 .714 8.5 2.7 0.7 1.4 35 Trajan Langdon 2000 2002 119 1738 220 529 86 217 121 133 29 159 152 56 14 98 179 647 .416 .396 .910 14.6 5.4 1.3 1.3 36 Elton Brand 2000 2011 738 27367 5451 10876 2 14 3245 4399 2725 7133 1816 703 1437 1786 2290 14149 .501 .143 .738 37.1 19.2 9.7 2.5 37 Corey Maggette 2000 2011 727 21176 3704 8112 408 1279 4209 5125 861 3696 1572 544 132 1701 2085 12025 .457 .319 .821 29.1 16.5 5.1 2.2 38 Shane Battier 2002 2011 705 23489 2442 5525 906 2359 1083 1448 1079 3345 1370 780 727 732 1721 6873 .442 .384 .748 33.3 9.7 4.7 1.9 39 Jay Williams 2003 2003 75 1961 273 685 65 202 103 161 27 195 350 86 17 171 179 714 .399 .322 .640 26.1 9.5 2.6 4.7 40 Carlos Boozer 2003 2011 513 16765 3621 6701 1 9 1592 2188 1375 5191 1268 502 244 1143 1629 8835 .540 .111 .728 32.7 17.2 10.1 2.5 41 Mike Dunleavy 2003 2011 583 16812 2541 5779 698 1963 1314 1651 521 2741 1459 485 175 951 1265 7094 .440 .356 .796 28.8 12.2 4.7 2.5 42 Dahntay Jones 2004 2011 405 6994 895 1987 48 152 594 807 198 787 383 192 118 392 872 2432 .450 .316 .736 17.3 6.0 1.9 0.9 43 Luol Deng 2005 2011 421 14485 2634 5594 128 398 1284 1684 748 2735 920 414 253 738 773 6680 .471 .322 .762 34.4 15.9 6.5 2.2 44 Chris Duhon 2005 2011 466 13104 1198 3051 562 1552 559 705 169 1166 2350 407 25 780 822 3517 .393 .362 .793 28.1 7.5 2.5 5.0 45 Daniel Ewing 2006 2007 127 1683 162 416 36 122 71 91 32 158 174 69 10 107 148 431 .389 .295 .780 13.3 3.4 1.2 1.4 46 Shavlik Randolph 2006 2010 95 783 85 190 1 1 58 99 100 230 27 28 27 41 124 229 .447 1.000 .586 8.2 2.4 2.4 0.3 47 J.J. Redick 2007 2011 237 4153 520 1247 246 641 383 440 36 360 311 73 5 166 290 1669 .417 .384 .870 17.5 7.0 1.5 1.3 48 Shelden Williams 2007 2011 262 3768 431 939 2 9 323 437 333 1051 105 117 111 210 503 1187 .459 .222 .739 14.4 4.5 4.0 0.4 49 Josh McRoberts 2008 2011 101 1260 161 332 20 62 43 73 99 324 102 47 51 58 173 385 .485 .323 .589 12.5 3.8 3.2 1.0 50 DeMarcus Nelson 2009 2009 13 171 24 54 0 3 5 14 6 24 13 9 2 15 24 53 .444 .000 .357 13.2 4.1 1.8 1.0 51 Gerald Henderson 2010 2011 52 475 51 134 4 22 41 55 19 73 18 12 12 19 35 147 .381 .182 .745 9.1 2.8 1.4 0.3
Haters will continue to hate. Irving and Rivers will make the so called curse irrelevant within the next 5 years.
