Kobe vs Vince Carter by the numbers, Vince is better?

Carter is an overrated piece of crap. He's nothing but a jumpshooter. He, Kidd, and Jefferson should have dominated the East but they completely sucked. He's right near the top of the list of guys I would have big problems rooting for.

 

Vince Carter sux...

 

This is getting ridiculous seriously

 

When has Carter jumped over a car?

 

Ok, Tracy is the 4th leading scorer in the playoffs, ever.

Jordan

Iverson

Jerry West

Tracy McGrady



and Kobe stands at 23-24 ppg i think. Does that make Iverson or TMAC better than Kobe though? Even though they shoot the same FG%?

 

First it is "Vince Carter is better than Dominique Wilkins." Now he is better than Kobe, too?

I think VC's brothers or cousins post on this site or something...

 

quoted for truth.

 

Kobe has the better numbers.

 

Vince Carter needs to come to the Rockets and be our "Ray Allen" type of player.

 

He's in the same boat as KG was a year ago at this team. Similar ages and points in their careers. People were sick of hearing the same KG soap opera every year just like they're sick of Vince's shortcomings.

 

Yeah whoever said that was a genius...

anyway i've said it before that some players get overrated so much that people get sick of them and then start underrating them. VC is a solid case of that but his stats are an even more solid case of my other theory. Stats, in basketball, are as close to useless as you can get. More often than not people just use them to prove some point that is so far from the truth (just like here).

 

Vince isn't a better performer than Kobe in the playoffs. The intangibles, like how Kobe makes his team better and is in it to win it every minute, while Carter sometimes ends up with a towel over his head...these things have to come into play. Duncan's stats aren't crazy, but he got 4 championships.

But I agree that Vince is phenomenal, and I hope to see him emerge from that mental funk and become a proven winner, even though his clock is ticking.

 

exactly,

but imo even if its mentality, he doesn't have the game to be like kobe, he can pass, and he can shoot, and he can dunk, but he can't create imo. skill-wise, the ballhandling is the true separator between the two.

 

Which Kobe are we talking about? Certainly not the one who finished the last 3 games of the Phx series in 05 or the one we saw in game 6 on Tuesday or the one in the Det-LA series a few years ago when the going got tough.

Kobe is a tremendously talented and individually skilled basketball player. Probably the highest in the world in those departments, likewise probably the best one on one player and the best guy to lead an all-star game with.

However his intangibles are why he isn't the best basketball player in the world once placed in a team concept, where you spend most of the year training and playing with teammates, and where you need to develop confidence and skills in what the team is doing to win the trophy.

 

duplicate post.

 

Looking purely at numbers, Kobe has a career 23.6 PER, playing 36.5 mpg over 866 regular season games.. Carter has a career 21.7 PER, playing 37.8 mpg in 697 regular season games. Advantage: Bryant

As for playoffs, Carter has a 51.5 TS%, and Kobe's got a 53.5 TS%. Per 36 minutes, Kobe's getting 22.4 points, 4.6 reb, and 4.2 asts. For Carter, its 22.1 points, 5.9 reb, and 4.4 asts. It looks close. Kobe also played a number of games as a role player when he was a teen, and a large percentage of his playoff games were played alongside Shaquille O'neal. When you take all of that, and consider that Kobe has had far greater playoffs moments in his career, it's hard to argue that Carter has been the more impressive better postseason player.