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Kobe can't beat guys off the dribble anymore, says scouts to Chris Broussard

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Rokman

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    Can't wait to see Harden vs. Kobe. Kobe's going to get into foul trouble reeeeal quick!!
     
  2. Roxnostalgia

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    Classic Lin fan logic: other peoples' weaknesses make Jeremy better.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Kobe is smart - he will play like Jordan, and use the knowledge he has to be effective.

    He will not be the same, but he will be effective and have spurts of greatness.

    IMO.

    DD
     
  4. Texanasiafan

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    Dallas played extremely well with their starting 5 on offense against the Cavs, and while they are not a good defensive team, but their coach is one of the best and they played a lots of zone in that game and gave the Cavs lots of problem.

    Expecting the similar style they will use against the Rockets - that means both Harden and Howard's ISO will be less effective and we must shoot the 3's well to beat them.
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    This is my feeling on it. Beating guys off the dribble wasn't what made Kobe great in the first place. He was great because he was very smart and worked very hard. So, his quickness is gone -- he'll find ways to maximize what he has left. Of course he won't be dominant anymore. And his team sucks anyway. But, he'll age gracefully.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    A good sign for Kobe is that he has managed to get to the foul line plenty over the last couple games. It shows that he still has enough physical abilities and skills to make guys foul him and get these high efficiency opportunities.

    When Jordan was with the Wizards, he no longer could draw fouls at a high rate and as a result were scoring his points at a low efficiency (below .500 TS%).
     
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    He's been a willing passer now. I don't see him chucking stupid shots.
     
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    0-82?

    Don't care, Lin averaged 20!
     
  9. juicystream

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    Offensively? Sure, he had already made the transition to playing more in the post. Still, he'll be closer to Washington MJ.

    Defensively? He's shot.
     
  10. Rokman

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    That's because these people are not fans of basketball. They are Lin groupies who have a crush. They need to just go to a Lin fans site or make one where they can all put pictures of him up and fantasize about being with him as a group. This is not the forum for this kind of crap! Wish clutch could put a stop to it.
     
  11. morpheus133

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    Is he? He has shot more shots than any other player in the preseason so far, at a 37% FG%
     
  12. doggoneit

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    Do you know why Linsanity was Linsanity? Because his team was winning.

    This will be Linsanity because Lakers will be winning with him playing like an All Star.

    What sucks with being a player fan is when he's injured, you get bored out of your mind. :(
     
  13. colts_1994

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    its not like he passes the ball anyway
     
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    Reading your post is Linsanity
     
  15. cheke64

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    Lin is going to make Kobe shine. Lin is going to get triple team making life easy for Kobe.
     
  16. Classic

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    22ppg? 8apg 45%FG? 40.3% 3pt shooting? From 'can only go right' Lin?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Triple team? Pfft, Lin easily commands the attention of 6, 7, maybe 8 defenders on his own.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yes, this I totally agree with, probably still better than Harden though.

    ;)

    DD
     
  19. rm365

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    He is kinda smart...

    In his prime he was good for:

    1)at least 3 really bone-headed plays a game

    2)brilliant displays of footwork for post play and pullup jumpers

    3)quick athletic/ acrobatic layups.
     
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    ESPN has dropped a feature on Kobe Bryant in the latest issue of ESPN: The Magazine, and it's a doozy. The title "Is Kobe Bryant the reason for the Los Angeles Lakers' downfall?" seems misleadingly non-committal, as author Henry Abbott clearly believes that the answer is an unequivocal "yes." The piece—which is heavy on the use of agents as anonymous sources—details the Lakers collapse since winning the NBA Finals in 2010, and lays most of the blame at the feet of one Kobe Bean Bryant.

    The basic thesis is that Bryant's megalomania has precluded any free agents of note from signing with the Lakers in the past few years. Now that Bryant is not a top five (or even a top 40, but we'll save that topic for another day) NBA player, nobody that doesn't have to is willing to put up with his bull**** anymore. The piece details the numerous free agents who refused to sign with the Lakers in large part because of Bryant, but what's really breathtaking is just how many agents are willing to absolutely pummel Bryant.

    "Peek behind the banners," says one longtime NBA agent, "and it's rotten."
    "Kobe is like the big rock in their front yard," says an agent who has had a Lakers client in recent years. "You can't mow over it, so you just have to mow around it."

    Another agent with current Lakers clients was asked whether Bryant undermined the team's rebuilding by alienating would-be free agent recruits. "Well, duh," he replied. "Isn't that obvious?"

    "I've had a lot of clients in the last five years, good players, who didn't want to play with Kobe," says an agent who has had numerous NBA stars. "They see that his teammates become the chronic public whipping boys. Anyone who could possibly challenge Kobe for the spotlight ends up becoming a pincushion for the media. Even Shaq."

    "I just never felt like the Lakers put as much effort into the building-the-team part of it," says an agent who once had a free agent decline a Lakers offer. "I saw some things in the players' parking lot. Conversations between Bynum and his people and some people with the Lakers. It got pretty rough and heated."

    And just for fun, Abbott lets a front office executive take a swing at the piñata:

    "It's horrendous. It's evil. It's a hard drug to quit when you're winning," says a front office executive from a rival team who knows everyone involved well. "Kobe has cost the Lakers dearly in human capital. Kobe has hurt a lot of people. In some cases jeopardized careers."

    On a basic level, the premise is quite simple. Kobe Bryant is undeniably an ******* to his teammates, and has a well-known penchant to kill them in the press both on and off the record. That was worth putting up with when being his teammate guaranteed a shot at a title, but now that Kobe Bryant is basically as good as Dion Waiters, they'd rather work with literally anybody else.

    But in nearly every example Abbott offers, there are also obvious non-Kobe reasons why players signed with other teams. Ramon Sessions got a longer deal with the Bobcats. Dwight Howard had a better chance of winning with the Rockets. LeBron James wanted to go home to Cleveland. Chris Bosh received more money from the Heat.

    In any case, after Kobe Bryant supposedly ruined any chance the Lakers had at re-signing Dwight Howard, why did the team still hand him an astronomical two-year, $48.5 million dollar contract? Jim Buss and money.

    Jim Buss—the son of longtime owner Jerry Buss—has had the final say on decisions since his father died in 2013, and decided to avoid pissing off Bryant. Buss has been harshly criticized by Peter Vecsey, Magic Johnson, and Phil Jackson among others, and has little credibility around the league or with Lakers fans. Rather than have his first two big moves as the boss be losing Howard and amnestying Bryant, Buss decided to buy Bryant's good will.

    The other reason is purely economic. The Lakers can make up to $150 million annually from their local TV, but according to one of Abbott's sources, the final amount hinges upon ratings. Kobe Bryant alone is enough to keep a lot of fans watching a bad team, and that directly translates into dollars in the pocket. It's also important to note that the team is the source of Buss's wealth; the Lakers don't have an owner who can cover losses with personal billions.

    Kobe Bryant is already pissed at ESPN. It'll be fun to see how he decides to respond to this one.

    http://deadspin.com/anonymous-nba-agents-nobody-wants-to-play-with-kobe-br-1648725291
     

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