Knicks trade Porzingis to Dallas for Dennis Smith Jr.

Knicks made out like bandits in this trade. It is truly transformational for them in a positive way. How can anyone say the Mavs won the trade is beyond me.

 

Capspace can be the ticket to heaven or the ticket to hell.
If they dont get any superstar and instead give Khris Middleton and Boogie max contracts then they screwed up.

 

yup, remember 2010 and missing out on Lebron, Wade & bosh only to max out Amare who was only a few years removed from knee surgery.

While I have no respect or sympathy for Dolan and the knicks management, I am rooting for Knicks fans to get Durant + Kyrie or Kemba in the Summer.
IMO the league would be funner with a relevant Knicks team.

 

Ever hear of the term sunk cost? KP is gone anyways from the Knicks, he doesnt need to be garbage like you are insisting the fact is he wanted out already thats why he was traded.

If you are giving up something now for future return that's called investing not gambling. Gambling entails an element of risk that is why when you bet on something that is called gambling. If you to the bank and buy a government T-Bill thats called investing as you put your money now for future interest.

As the Knicks are already parting ways with KP regardless there is no risk or loss involved in this trade anymore so the Knicks aren't gambling with this trade.

The ones who are gambling are the Mavs, they may have a foundation but tbh that is all they will ever have they have no capspace and no picks. They can't add anything to this core unless they find a way to get rid of Harrison Barnes and Hardaway, goodluck with that with no picks.

The only team I have a bias about are the Rockets, I'm "anti" every other team in the league that makes me objective unlike most of the people on this thread who seem to have a massive hard-on for Porzingis. You really need me to explain why having massive capspace and high lotto picks is good for the Knicks? Really?

 

Boogie and Khris Middleton is already a step up from KP who says he is leaving the team.

Capspace isn't the only thing they have they have lotto picks and lotto players on the team. Frank N, Kevin Knox and DSJ thats 3 lotto players on the roster. Lotto pick next year due to tanking then an unprotected and top 10 protected pick the next 2 years. They have flexibility to sign get stars from other teams they cna get Beal from Wizards or Jimmy B from Philly.

 

No, paying 30+ mil for 4 years to an elite roleplayer and a former star 2 years removed from a devastating injury is a recipe to disaster.
They cant get either Beal, who the owner said he is not trading, or trade for Butler who is a UFA.

Porzingis could have been traded for elite draft picks and players with star potential while now he has been traded for magic boxes.
The magic boxes when opened could mean superstars but they can also mean overpaid albatross contracts and low draft picks.

 

KP demanded a trade according to Stephen A Smith, he is highly connected with NYC FO he knows the inside scoop. KP also hasnt refuted the stories of him demanding a trade which more than lilely is true.

What do you mean no direction in sight? 2 max capspace+ picks is no direction in sight? LoL! People are losing their minds about Porzingis no wonder he is the Unicorn. KP is definitely an upgrade to DSJ but it comes at a cost of no capspace and no picks. They are the ones who need a lot of luck not the Knicks.

Knicks already won because they got assets and offloaded liabilities for somebody who was already gonna leave. Regardless what happens in FA this move is already a slam dunk for them.

 

What are saying they could have gotten higher return but they still got return for a guy who is already gonna leave. They also got DSJ who is a decent player in his own right.

Elite role player+Cousins plus all their lotto picks isnt bad. At least they can reach the playoffs so that is an improvement from where they were with KP.

 

Look at it objectively. Adding 2 FA's and a top 3 pick to this rotation is going to make them a contender in the East:

Mitchell Robinson
Kevin Knox
Damien Dotson
Alonzo Trier
DSJ/Mudiay/Ntilikina (assume one pans out as a marginal starter)

Those will be their 4th to 8th best players and all young. Add Kemba, Klay and a non-bust top 3 pick and this team is the youngest contender in the East with two picks (on top of their own) coming in the future.

If they are smart with their timeline, they will deal the 2 Mavs picks + Ntilikina for another top 10 pick in 2019. They would still have all their future picks.

Porzingis is 7'3. The likelihood he'll be healthy after an ACL injury is 50-50. They took control of their own future and that's good. Hardaway and Lee were bad contracts too.

We are talking realistic and worst case scenarios. Things can end up a bit better than average, even if they don't hit home runs.

 

ATT: @DreamShook

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...caller-kristaps-porzingis-20190201-story.html

 

yes exactly. They could have gotten better return if they weren't aiming to have cap for 2 maxes.
They can be a playoff team in the East, but the threshold for this is very low.
If they don't get a superstar but second or third tier Free Agents, at best they can be the 4rd best team in the East. And that's mainly because Oladipo will come back very late next season.

 

I guess if that’s what you want to go off of.

And no that’s doesnt really explain direction especially coming from KP

 

This guy encapsulates all my feelings when I watch an episode of Friends, Modern Family, Big Bang theory, US Swimming World Championships. Representation matters.

Knicks are several white players away from a championship though.

 

Well if you think about it the stock for KP isn't very high, in terms of stock pre injury Cousins had a higher stock but even he got traded for peanuts and he was healthy at the time so I'm not sure anybody would offer more for an injured KP. If they can sign Cousins then its like they didnt trade KP but got rid of bloated salary and got DSJ and picks for free.

4rth seed in the East is already pretty high if you ask me, we are 6th seed in the West right now. It'll be a lot easier for them to get a high standing than Mavs with KP and Doncic. They were in the lottery with KP anyway not sure why trading KP has to make the Knicks a contender.

 

Would love for this pairing to happen. Anything to weaken other teams.