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KJ McDaniels in support of former Miss Alabama in saying Dallas Cop Murderer is a Martyr

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rockets0515, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. HamJam

    HamJam Contributing Member

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    No, because while I understand the anger and frustration that the black community has towards the cops and criminal justice system, I do not understand the anger that the white nationalist community feels towards black people.

    Why, do you?
     
  2. crash5179

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    No body is trying to say that KJ needs to be tossed in jail. He absolutely has the right to say those things. But freedom of speech doesn't guarantee there are no consequences for what you say.

    Do you remember the Dixie Chicks? They had the freedom to say what they wanted after 9/11 and it basically cost them their career. They were not arrested but just like they have freedom of speech the owners of radio stations have their own freedoms, such as the freedom to stop playing their albums. The consumers also have freedoms, like the freedom to stop buying their albums. The Dixie Chicks did not lose their freedom of speech but be careful with your remarks or other Americans might decide to exercise a few of their rights.

    Les Alexander has the right to cut KJ if he wants to. Every other NBA owner in the NBA has the right to not sign him to their team if they want to. Freedom of speech is not the only right granted to us in the constitution.
     
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  3. RocketsLegend

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    Release that piece of ****
     
  4. donkeypunch

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    Yeahhh..... Cause the first thing anyone should do is wave a gun at police officers. First rule of the getting shot handbook is doing exactly that. There might not be any hope for you.
     
  5. bmd

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    My point is that it's the flip side of the same coin. You are the yin to the Dylann Roof supporters' yang.
     
  6. Newlin

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    Wow, good grief. Speechless.
     
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    This thread should be fun.
     
  8. biojayc

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    Seriously? This isn't a freedom of speech issue! No one is saying he should go to jail for saying this. Freedom of speech isn't about getting to say whatever you want without consequences. Freedom of speech is about being able to speak without the government coming after you. You still have to deal with the ramifications of your actions from other people.

    Dude is an idiot for tweeting this, regardless of his beliefs about it, and the Rockets have the right to cut him over this if they wish. We have the right to say he's an idiot, using the same freedom of speech you are claiming got tossed.
     
  9. HamJam

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    It is a false equivalency though, unless you think that the anger of the black community over police brutality is just as spurious as the anger of the white nationalist community at black people, for whatever delusional reasons they are angry at black people.
     
  10. Rockets0515

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/KJMcDaniels">@KJMcDaniels</a> Deleted that fast didn't you, Good thing nothing disappears on Internet <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonRockets">@HoustonRockets</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Deadspin">@Deadspin</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@espn</a> <a href="https://t.co/SIXp3ELJGW">pic.twitter.com/SIXp3ELJGW</a></p>&mdash; Mike Onorato (@CosmicSlop15) <a href="https://twitter.com/CosmicSlop15/status/752951600214183937">July 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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  11. chievous minniefield

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    We live today in a world where a guy will lose his job for tweeting a gun and horse emoji but another guy won't for tweet-endorsing actual, literal human murder.
     
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    You're essentially arguing that black folks have the right to support murder because they're righteously angry.

    What do you think the end result of going down this path is?
     
  13. RocketsLegend

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    and this comes after a Clevland Browns HB posting picture of a cop getting his throat slit.
     
  14. crash5179

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    Here is a picture of some of the police that were on duty that day in Dallas.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The problem is that people these days (and CF proves it exists in sports too) is that people don't know how to have nuanced takes anymore. You either love Harden or think he's trash. You either think Obama is the savior or the antichrist. You either think all minorities are criminals and deserve whatever treatment they get from the police (who are apparently flawless and immune from bad judgement) OR you believe that all police officers are corrupt racists who enjoy seeing minorities suffer. The truth, as always, is in the middle. Most cops are good people, but some have biases and anger issues and make terrible decisions THAT THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR. However, murdering innocent police officers and bystanders in no way accomplishes anything other than to stoke the flames of hate in this country. Ignoring social justice issues doesn't make them go away. Education and human decency are the key.
     
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    Countdown to how long before the Former Miss Alabama loses her TV Job in Miami.
     
  17. Camarograna2

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    wait so a crazy white guy kills blacks and he is crazy but a crazy black man kills cops and he is a terrorist.
     
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  18. bmd

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    From their perspective, their anger is just as real, whether you agree with their reasoning or not.
     
  19. HamJam

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    I am not arguing that anyone has the right to do something, I am saying I understand and share the anger towards cops that is almost certainly motivating folks in the black community to express opinions like those of KJ or Miss Alabama.
     
  20. HamJam

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    What about from your perspective?
     

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